Jita Park Speakers Corner

/signed - Do not abandon the POS Revamp.

I belive you read that wrong.
Here is what they meant:

I use a POS every day. The current system is a mess and needs a revamp. It is tolerated only because of vague promises of "it'll be fixed".

Guess I don't exist?

IMHO POS touch enough aspects of EVE to be considered a "theme". I think many would agree.

I'm calling bullplop on CCP reasons for why they don't want to do this. Doesn't effect enough people is garbage, the real reason this is off the table for them is that now a POS rework as much as they would probably like to do one, doesn't fit in with their new design strategy.

I think the real problem here is that the new design strategy does not allow for projects that would take huge amounts of man hours and can't be released in small stages. Everything CCP has said about a pos rework has hinted that the back end coding would be huge! I bet the problem is that it's so huge that for a small group to do it (under the new strategy) would mean that even getting the code ready for a first release would now take them years to do. And they know this and don't want to have to admit it now to players. POS's have needed fixed for years, and CCP promised to do them last year but they can't now come out and tell their players that under the new flow chart they are married too, doing so will take another 5-6 years to get done. So they lie and say it doesn't effect enough people. Middle management justifying the crap middle management does!

When a company adopts a design strategy thats built entirely on middle management speak things in the real world that don't fit in get tossed under busses. As much as I'm sure many want to do it, the problem is meetings have been had, flow charts have been adopted, and peoples reputations have been bet on this new design strategy so sticking to it now becomes more important than the product they put out. Hell, this new design strategy for a while IS the product they put out.

one more point:
The best expansion ever was the one you iterated the most on many things, when you fixed and polished existing mechanics instead of introducing new ones, when you went thru the forums and petitions and read OUR opinions on what needs to be fixed, changed and made better.
Follow thru with that line of thought, iterate more on your broken mechanics, fix and remake them. This is what makes your game better. I thought we agreed on that when you said "no more Jesus features, we are focusing on the tasks at hand".

Run a script and see how many POS's are there, how many are used daily, weekly, monthy, this is not a minority feature, this is a major thing everyone uses (by extension, like supercaps can be only ever made and kept at a POS).
Fix them. Make them more intuitive, do what you said you would do and start developing.

My suggestions:

POS:
Remove fuel requirements.
Boost Power / CPU grid.
Boost the Shield / Armor / Structure
Give them capacitors & low/mid/high slots.
Create active tanking modules & rigs.
Increase the cost for each tower & mod by a factor of 10.
Remove the reinforce ability of the pos.


Outposts:
Create smalll / Medium / Large varients.
Allow them to mine 2 / 4 / 8 moons in systems.
Allow them to be fitted with weapons & defensive systems.
Limit the amount of ships that can dock

Death to all POSes,
A death by one thousand clicks--
Long live my POSes.

Not really.

The problem I suspect that CCP has statistics, and they do show that only a small part of players actually manage POSes. After all, most of high-sec carebears or 0.0 grunts don't touch them.

HOWEVER, they don't understand that all the people who create the content (or 'enablers') - directors, logistics guys, large-scale manufacturers, etc etc., are the ones who deal with POSes daily. Plus all the Wormholers.

The other thing they don't understand is that POS revamp is a big opportunity to attract new players who want to have their own homes. Add a number of various POS modules, add vanity items for AUR, and you can attract a number of new players as well.

/signed with great prejudice!