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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Laraxie
Perkone
Caldari State
#921 - 2013-01-17 15:36:50 UTC
Signed, work on POS!
Zapman987
Imperial Commandos
#922 - 2013-01-17 15:36:51 UTC
I have 3 accounts active. All 3 depend on POS's to make my isk.

Please fix POSs!
Arwen Brightstar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#923 - 2013-01-17 15:36:53 UTC
Fix POS
Goyathla
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#924 - 2013-01-17 15:37:12 UTC
So it's been a while since I worked with POS myself, but that's only because I couldn't handle the headaches that came with the current system anymore. At present there are others in my corp and alliance who are 'living with POS management'.

Most corps I've been in have had the majority of people using POS and about half their members putting up or maintaining them. That includes when i lived in high sec and null sec.

POS may not affect everyone in eve, but that doesn't mean they should be ignored.

~Goya
Syldinada Matuss
The New Nobility Corporation
#925 - 2013-01-17 15:37:20 UTC
How many don't go anywhere near a pos once they understand how posses work? (Or don't work)

It affects by excluding.
sayasic
Fog Industries
#926 - 2013-01-17 15:37:59 UTC
I have used POS's in the past quite a bit and I only do not do so due to how hard they are to use.

If CCP does fix POS's, and I really hope they do, I will be one of the first putting them up again.
Khura Shau
Deep Maw Salvage
#927 - 2013-01-17 15:38:12 UTC
Fix the POS! It's player owned! Make player intuitive CCP!!
Tesiri Nightstar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#928 - 2013-01-17 15:38:29 UTC
Please fix POSs!
Ellisland
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#929 - 2013-01-17 15:38:48 UTC
As a POS user getting the POS system revamped gets my vote.
Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#930 - 2013-01-17 15:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Innominate
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with a lot of the people talking about POS. In its current state POS management really does affect very few players. This is because they are broken and awful that very few people can tolerate dealing with them on a daily basis. That's the problem though. So few people deal with POS because of the headaches involved.

Adding to the problems, in the current system most of the useful parts of a POS require potentially dangerous roles to use. This makes many of the features of a POS useless unless it's a personal tower in a personal corp, or you are in a leadership position of your corp.

This is literally declaring that POS don't need to be fixed because they're broken enough that few people will go near them.
Icarus Narcissus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#931 - 2013-01-17 15:39:14 UTC
As a null sec resident, and a former resident on wormhole space, I believe changes to POSes will affect a large portion of the community whether they acknowledge these effects or not. Changes to POSes do not only affect their managers. If life is easier for the managers life is easier for everyone with access to that POS.


  1. Members of high security space looking to move out of high security space will have one less hurdle to move out. While some hurdles are good, this one is created entirely by broken game mechanics and overly complicated interfaces and roles. This is not the kind of hurdle Eve Online needs. I'd rather see skill (not necessarily SP), and locals be the hurdles they have to face.
  2. Members of high security space not looking to move out of high security space will have more ease in placing POSes in 0.5-0.7 space. This has a wide variety of implications including industrial and PvP incentives.
  3. Low security residents often use POSes as safe-spots since they are much less camp-able than stations. Although I feel low sec will actually be the least affected by such a change. (Note: this is also the least inhabited area of space and is truly the "small portion of the community".
  4. WHS dwelling pilots need not be mentioned as the impact such changes would have on them exceed all others.
  5. Sovereign Null pilots use POSes every single day. They use them as jump bridges, hiding spots, formup spots, places to store giant things they pretend don't exist on voice comms and places to conga line in peace.
  6. NPC Null pilots use POSes for everything mentioned in Sovereign Null except jump bridges with extra emphasis on conga lines.



Angath Starfighter
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#932 - 2013-01-17 15:39:30 UTC
POS fix them
Grimlan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#933 - 2013-01-17 15:39:39 UTC
yes its a ***** to set up a pos now pls change to a modular pos system ;)
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#934 - 2013-01-17 15:40:06 UTC
The assertion that POS management only affects a small number of people is ludicrously fallacious. My entire corp as well as a scattering of subsidiary corps live in POSes managed by a small group of people who also happen to be the CEOs of these corps. All over EVE, POSes are in use by many people - wormholer bases, nullsec camps, hisec research bases, the list goes on.

Please, CCP. Fix POSes.

Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave

Drifnir
Zealots of Bob
#935 - 2013-01-17 15:40:15 UTC
Update the damn POS system already. Unless you're too busy thinking up new vocabulary and playing tiddlywinks.

Have a nice day.

Thraia Arkadian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#936 - 2013-01-17 15:40:38 UTC
Heh.

The CFC hath laid claim to this threadnaught and decrees that POS' are **** that needs to be less ******.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#937 - 2013-01-17 15:40:39 UTC
Please CCP, for the love of your player base and the amount of time they spend ONLINING POS mods if you want to encourage the social aspect of the game let us put up a POS as a team and not drag it out as a one man job. Give us a better equity stake in these structures through better game mechanics.

it is a small but dedicated set of people managing these things and an even smaller set that actually sets them up or takes them down. Don't ignore this because it is hard. If this means Year 1 is spent re-factoring all of the crap code...then do it, as this only improves the quality of the game as a whole anyhow by removing bloat and improving standards as a whole. We will cheer you on the entire way.

This is step 1 in the next 10 years of EVE: better coding through growing a pair of balls.
Renslip Darkdraught
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#938 - 2013-01-17 15:40:44 UTC
Just writing to confirm that POS's suck. Anytime my mind wanders to doing this I start up the google. What the google and the experience of others tells me is that POS's are fecal matter based. I hope much they be fixed.

Drunk tank, best tank.

Rafe Pulsar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#939 - 2013-01-17 15:40:51 UTC
Make poses a little smoother to work with
Ammorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#940 - 2013-01-17 15:41:11 UTC
Develop the modular POS system.