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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Frying Doom
#2721 - 2013-03-11 21:48:02 UTC
Lady Zarrina wrote:
Well I am willing to bet CCP is breathing a sigh of relief. This thread is dead (like all the previous times). Must be very embarrassing to have no employees willing to solve this problem, so best solution is to pray players forget. That is how you move a company forward.

Overwhelming show of support and ideas by fans and players , with disrespectful silence from CCP. Sad.

In all honesty, I am hoping they do some small thing to string us along some more that way we get something

Because lets face it modular POSs are much like Ring Mining an ambitious idea that they will never work on and that we were fools to believe they ever would.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#2722 - 2013-03-11 22:35:44 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lady Zarrina wrote:
Well I am willing to bet CCP is breathing a sigh of relief. This thread is dead (like all the previous times). Must be very embarrassing to have no employees willing to solve this problem, so best solution is to pray players forget. That is how you move a company forward.

Overwhelming show of support and ideas by fans and players , with disrespectful silence from CCP. Sad.

In all honesty, I am hoping they do some small thing to string us along some more that way we get something

Because lets face it modular POSs are much like Ring Mining an ambitious idea that they will never work on and that we were fools to believe they ever would.



the thread can only die if we allow it to, and I for one don't want to be strung along, in their replies they implied something would be done and I think that we as a community should hold them to that.

this is just me...


o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Frying Doom
#2723 - 2013-03-11 22:42:14 UTC
Celly Smunt wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Lady Zarrina wrote:
Well I am willing to bet CCP is breathing a sigh of relief. This thread is dead (like all the previous times). Must be very embarrassing to have no employees willing to solve this problem, so best solution is to pray players forget. That is how you move a company forward.

Overwhelming show of support and ideas by fans and players , with disrespectful silence from CCP. Sad.

In all honesty, I am hoping they do some small thing to string us along some more that way we get something

Because lets face it modular POSs are much like Ring Mining an ambitious idea that they will never work on and that we were fools to believe they ever would.



the thread can only die if we allow it to, and I for one don't want to be strung along, in their replies they implied something would be done and I think that we as a community should hold them to that.

this is just me...


o/
Celly

Yes and the reason for this thread to begin with was that CCP had stated that the team working on POSs was doing crime watch at the time and would move on to modular POSs after that

Then as usual CCP reneged, this thread has hopefully gotten them to fix some of the horrors of POSs but I will not believe in miracles from a company that has promised so much and delivered so little of those promises.

As to the community holding them to it, all that will happen is that a portion of the community will leave in disgust, some of which will later return and they will try to get new subscribers to fill the gaps, again.

I myself will not quit over this but we will lose some as we always do and most of those will make no noise.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#2724 - 2013-03-11 22:55:08 UTC
I think they might be afraid to do the first increment on the new POSes.

Pro-tip: guys, you don't need to get rid of the existing ones first, and you can work out the anchoring rules on the test server.

I for one *promise* that I'll be there for those tests, I want to try to break them before they hit production, because for a builder like me that is fun of the first order.

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#2725 - 2013-03-11 23:28:59 UTC
Buzzy Warstl wrote:
I think they might be afraid to do the first increment on the new POSes.

Pro-tip: guys, you don't need to get rid of the existing ones first, and you can work out the anchoring rules on the test server.

I for one *promise* that I'll be there for those tests, I want to try to break them before they hit production, because for a builder like me that is fun of the first order.



I would be willing to figure out how to go on the test server and work with the stuff too.

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2726 - 2013-03-12 14:18:28 UTC
I look forward to a pos revamp

Though I think there should be build into different type

The Instant Foldable tent which the current POS System is, then a second larger type that actually takes a a while to build but is hard to destroy. This would be the Planet killer ship or the station ship.
Where effort, not just isk is used to build the station and put people at risk.
Ie Requires a Dread to siege and apply armor to the structure.

Also there be a mechanism to reduce the effectiveness of a blob of dreads grouping together and just mowing down installation after installation. Or a mechanism that will require several groups together to his several spots at once in different systems to unlock the invulnerability status covering a structure. Maybe behind gates preventing Large ship access.

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#2727 - 2013-03-12 16:30:50 UTC
I would very much like a new pos system :) It's all about beeing out there, having your own place to dabble with space stuff. I just wish it wasn't restricted to moons alone. The modular (minecraft idea) pos system got me drooling, something like that would be cool.
Midori Amiiko
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2728 - 2013-03-13 10:05:49 UTC
Bump

This POS thing is really important to anyone in W-space. If you think POSes suck, try living out of one with 30 other people for a year. The Captain's Quarters never looked so good.
Unfortunately, It looks like CCP has a hard-on for ship rebalancing...and since there's a lot of ships left to balance I'm guessing that this is a dead horse that's going to get a lot of flogging. I'm in for the long haul.Lol

The corp role improvements seem even less sexy than POS improvements in general--but that just makes them that much more appealing to me. If I can actually use a corp POS to build ammo instead of operating my own (pretty much for that purpose + invention & booster cooking) then I could spend my time having, what do they call it?
Fun. That's the word I was looking for.
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#2729 - 2013-03-13 14:10:31 UTC
I want to run naked around inside my own pos!
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#2730 - 2013-03-14 13:00:05 UTC
Two weeks further and still waiting on the info CCP Seagull told us in this same thread would come to us end of February.

Guess it's such bad news they're going to hide it under fanfest and hope nobody notices it.
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#2731 - 2013-03-14 13:51:08 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Two weeks further and still waiting on the info CCP Seagull told us in this same thread would come to us end of February.

Guess it's such bad news they're going to hide it under fanfest and hope nobody notices it.



^^ Sadly, this.

Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"!

POS fix dated back to 2006!
Tion Barton
Bare Minimum Bandits
I Showed You My Probes... Please Respond...
#2732 - 2013-03-15 22:25:50 UTC
Maybe it isn't March yet in Iceland, what with the time difference and everything.
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#2733 - 2013-03-16 02:18:55 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Two weeks further and still waiting on the info CCP Seagull told us in this same thread would come to us end of February.

Guess it's such bad news they're going to hide it under fanfest and hope nobody notices it.

Well, he didn't say which year >.>

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#2734 - 2013-03-17 09:18:39 UTC
Athena Maldoran wrote:
I want to run naked around inside my own pos!



would it be bad form to say "I wanna watch"?

:P

o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#2735 - 2013-03-17 11:54:03 UTC
I can wait on a modular POS and all the flashy pretty artsy stuff since I've proven that the artwork in game would suffice ...... I just the corp roles fixed so I can let my guys do their own research or have access to a hangar without me jumping through all the hoops needed to allow it.

Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"!

POS fix dated back to 2006!
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#2736 - 2013-03-17 15:06:12 UTC
Well, with my brain, i do know that CCP won't dare to abandon Modular POSe the way they abandoned WiS...

...but my heart cracks up laughing manically at the thought that Modular POSes may be shelved too. Lol
Goldnut Sachs
#2737 - 2013-03-18 15:06:57 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Well, with my brain, i do know that CCP won't dare to abandon Modular POSe the way they abandoned WiS...

...but my heart cracks up laughing manically at the thought that Modular POSes may be shelved too. Lol

go back to your hole in OOPE
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#2738 - 2013-03-18 19:00:51 UTC
Balder Verdandi wrote:
I can wait on a modular POS and all the flashy pretty artsy stuff since I've proven that the artwork in game would suffice ...... I just the corp roles fixed so I can let my guys do their own research or have access to a hangar without me jumping through all the hoops needed to allow it.



Agreed, that would at least be the best place to start, then once the things aren't a mess and security risk (as much) to deal with, they could do the glitz and glitter as those will likely bring their own unique problems with them as well.

o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
kKayron Jarvis
#2739 - 2013-03-19 02:11:25 UTC
I am a portion of the community i live on a pos wh, and thay are a pany to use.
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#2740 - 2013-03-23 21:50:36 UTC
ok, let me be the first to share something from the following CCP announcement:
http://www.eveonline.com/odyssey


and I quote:

The Little Things

Continued development towards raising accessibility without removing functionality will bring dozens of changes to player-owned starbases, game UI and beyond.



it clearly says "player-owned starbases"

I'm unsure if they mean Player Owned Structures (which is what we've repeatedly been told that Poses are), or Player-owned Stations... I guess we will see.

I also see:

A New "Spacescape"

A rebalance of major areas of space from highsec to nullsec include changes in exploration sites, industrial resources, some types of NPC loot and more…


Which if it holds to the promise it implies, will be good news for my nullbear friends as well.

o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.