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We've had "nothing definite" for how long?

It took a release to fix the Unified Inventory, why not one to fix management and bring in the modPOS?

I do believe that one of the CCP posts upthread says that we'll have some news on this this month. Personally, I'm not expecting a finished product at this point, but we are only looking at a few weeks to where we can see if there is a light at the end of this tunnel, and whether it sounds like an oncoming train.

Would love to see a rework. So much goodness in this thread i wont add more to the confusion. Don't gold-plate it to start, keep it small, keep it simple and iterate on it. Even if it didn't have a pretty graphic and looked like an orbital space-brick we'd be happy.

That would be awessomesauce (as long as putting it in a dead-space pocket is optional).

From a coder's perspective, I can understand where CCP's coming from. Think of this as being inside of an old spaceship; a spaceship that has numerous deficiencies, ranging from underpowered, malfunctioning engines, old interfaces that barely work, wiring that constantly shorts out, components that are constantly failing, and a hull that is on the verge of venting you into space.

Now, some alien race has decided to upgrade and repair your ship for you, but has said that in order to not be infected by human-borne viruses (ie. encounter unwanted bugs on Tranquility, or a loss of data), they would need to do the repairs while in space, and doing the repairs while you are still inside the ship (ie. replace existing coding with new coding, while keeping the existing content intact).

Obviously, POS's are so broken that an entire coding rewrite would be needed. Thus, it can't be half-assed. To start, they would need to redo how POS's are put together. Then, they need to change the interfaces for all the fuctions, such as fueling, building, and POS setup. And finally, they have to make it work seamlessly with what's running on tranquility.

If they make a mistake, it's very possible it could lead to client/server crashes, the disappearance of modules or even POS's, losing whatever is stored inside of POS modules, have all the POS's go offline, to having it keep out or shoot anyone, regardless of allegiance. In other words, they would need to keep all the existing variable names and contents, while rewriting all the related code underneath, so that way Tranquility's existing world data, or rather data that players have created through construction, destruction, and manipulation, seamlessly merges with the new code. I can assure you that this is definitely not simple, and their current timeline or even making an expansion out of it is a very reasonable proposal. After all, let's not forget what happened when they transferred sovereignty to TCU's. :P

Also consider that the fact that they have a prototype, probably means that they have a separate, new POS setup going under different ID's and variables, to test and see how they work together, without worrying about how it meshes with Tranquility's database, and not affecting any legacy POS's that are running on whatever test server they have the prototype on. In other words, they may have legacy POS's and prototype POS's working on the same server at the same time, to test their functionality. That said, this is just a theory about their prototype and how they're handling it.

That all said *Whew*, they should make this their top priority, hands down. And this coder's perspective is not meant to make CCP lazy with this ready-made excuse, so don't get any ideas, CCP. :P

Fix POS

I expect the Dev team is up to the challenge of revising the POS coding. Since towers are at the heart of so much of production, I understand amount work that lay ahead of them will be difficult but I have faith that CCP has some of the most dedicated coders. Best of Luck.

POS love bumpage... :P

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Celly

I just recently started using a POS in the last few days. Now I understand what all the fuss is about. The least CCP can do in the next expansion is to make the existing system more user-friendly.

This topic is dying ;/

+1 for revamp