Jita Park Speakers Corner

if your too lazy to redo the damn thing you guys @ CCP better at least make some improvements so we dont have to have 50 god damn pos' in our system just to keep our assets secure.

Outrageous u-turn CCP!

Because of the terrible security on POS we w-space corp are forced to exclude large parts of the player base from our recruitment. When we explained this to Greyscale and Masterplan last March they could see this hits your bottom line.

We don't want the whole company for a whole expansion.

We don't even need a whole new pos system.

WE NEED SECURE SHIP STORAGE.

Please give us access control lists on Ship Maintenance Arrays!

Totally this

Its idiotic of them to leave POSes as they are. More people would use POSes if they weren't so terribly broken and obscure.

POS may only be directly used by a small percentage, but that's a direct consequence of how incredibly unfriendly they are to deploy and manage.

I'll go ahead an predict that if POS were easy to manage and deploy, and the POS roles system was made actually usable, then we'd see an explosion in POS use.

Even if POS usage was always going to be a niche thing, they're barely functional as it is. What a lovely message for CCP to send - "minority activity not working well? **** you, then!"

Signed, the current measures we take to keep out **** safe in w-space is just ridicoulus and tedious. I feel sorry for whoever in my corp is managing it.

Signed

So basically they are saying revamping posses would take the full development effort of one expansion and they can't sell that as an expansion. Okay, I get that.

However, POSes need work, so how are they planning on doing it then? Spread the work over different expansions? Is that even possible if the code is as broken as they want us to believe?

I disagree with the argument that POSes affect only a small portion of the community. How big is the "enablers & instigators" part of the community? Speaking of which, POS management seems like one of the things that "enablers & instigators" would be interested in.

Dude, cmon

The POS change should not be a fix to the inventory system.
that would really only reach a few players.

The POS change shouldn't be a move from loose modules to a single structure.
that would just be pretty.

The POS change should be what I've seen discussed in CSM minutes, letting us place POSes where we please (almost) enabling new and exciting ways to use POSes. in a belt for mining, near a planet for ring mining, near eachother to create industrial hubs. Near eachother to create wormhole communities. Near eachother to create defensible camps.
The ramifications of a real revamp would tie into sov, inevitably. and sov needs a fix too.
it would tie into all sorts of industry, and industry in eve needs a fix.

Not because everyone's lives are touched by poses right now.

because everyone's lives SHOULD be touched by poses right now.

A POS of your own should be a goal to strive for for almost anyone in the eve universe, not just a painful requirement for a few.

A POS of your own should be as cool and beneficial as many of us first thought the current ones would be.

I've set up more than one POS and I'm equally sad every time I realise that it'd be less work and more profit from just using a station a few systems away.

POSes are cool as **** as a concept and EVE deserves POSes that actually live up to their own potential.