Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Okay, for me, this is what I can get out of the Ferox. I don't have the resists trained to V only IV, so actual numbers will be a tiny amount higher, but that goes for the Prophecy as well as the Ferox numbers I've given.

DPS:

The Ferox fit is with 7 Heavy Neutron Blasters, aka the best range and DPS blaster available for the Ferox.

Gun DPS with Void in a 5km optimal, 8km fall off is 650 dps, albeit with a tracking penalty.

With Null you're getting 18km optimal, 9.5 fall off, and 465 dps, again with a tracking penalty.

Drones add another 99 DPS.

Null ammo then, is definitely the way to go, because the ship really doesn't have the capacitor to use the MWD for long. For best damage, you're going to want to scoot around the battlefield getting into optimal ranges with your best damage ammo of course, and the Ferox with an Invul and Scram on, can do this for 2:50 seconds.

There isn't the powergrid to fit a Medium Cap booster, so we'll have to go with a Small. This fixes the cap issue and helps keep the tank up against a cap drainer if lucky. This fixes the capacitor issue however.

EHP then, because an active tank would be both difficult, and to get any real numbers out of it, a 500m set of implants and blue pill boosters, and ideally... a Vulture or Tengu tagging along ;) You could always go for newly nerfed Ancillary Shield Boosters and hope that 60 seconds isn't as long a time to reload as you imagine.

56,118 EHP

Unlike the Prophecy, none of the resists are in the 60's and 70's. None hit over 80 like the Prophecy with its Kinetic and Explosive resists.

If you want to risk the Capacitor issues and hope you're not running around after stuff, then you can fit a second LSE, but only a Meta 4 one. The fitting is just a tiny bit short of fitting a better T2.

This takes the EHP up to:

67.138 EHP

Or, about 20% less than the Prophecy. That is quite a jump down.

And last but not least, the signatures and speeds:

Prophecy with the Experimental MWD is 893 ms

The Ferox with the same MWD is 1061

Signature of the Ferox with 1 LSE is around 350.

With two 2 LSE: its going to be around 400.

The Prophecy comes in at 270.

And the Ferox doesn't have the Cap stable Cap Drain, Web, Point and Target Painter. Admittedly, it does have instant damage guns like the Ferox, and isn't reliant on drones travelling speed.

But in a fist fight, which is what both of these ships are designed to do, there will be only one winner. The Ferox will be webbed, scrammed, target painted (Because its signature needs it right?) and cap drained, so it can't shoot, can't tank and eaten alive by drones.

So, please, pretty please CCP Fozzie. More Powergrid to fit the weapons it flys with and +1 midslot. Lose the new lowslot.

Otherwise, the Ferox is basically just a waste of ISK.

Your looking at 658 DPS + 80 from warriors on the new Ferox for a total of 738 or 836 overheated.


Sure the moa is faster with less tank and a smaller sig. It is good that the Moa has some advantages just like all the rest of the cruisers. And the money is not much of a difference.


Also shield tanked ships always have a higher signature radius as well as reduced EWAR. They get speed and damage mods to make up for this.

What a joke. Soon a frig will do more damage than a BC. All this nerfing makes me sick. I do not pay my subscription for this crap. I want to play without having to buy Plex in addition to the subscription and all you seem to be doing is to ensure that people can't make enough isk so that they have to buy Plex. I am disgusted.

Please focus on expanding the game instead of these stupid configuration changes that **** people off.

Of course it's so easy to change a few parameters rather than design and develop new features. Let me guess all developers are busy with something else. This work doesn't need developers.

And, yes I do expect this post to be deleted like many of my previous ones including the likes received. A bit inconvenient right?

Ubat X X X

the direction is quite clear. have a gun- and a missile focuses line of ships ranging from frigs to bs.
missiles were the secondary weapon-system for minnies since as long as i can remember. these days any ship and its mother gets drones, so missiles are fine. splitting the ships into those lines is actually a good idea as it gives incentives for younger players to stick with one line and don't try to train both at the same time. training missiles, guns, shield and armor at the same time was what i did, because everytime i reached a new class of ships the whole distribution was different, again.

two turret slots for your utility highs doesn't make the (new) cyclone a split weapon boat. it just means you could fit turrets in those utilities if you so desire. the cane can currently fit missile launchers in its utilities too, but isn't concieved a split weapon boat.
new cyclone is fine. maybe not the strongerst dps boat but it's active tank is definitely on the sturdy site of life. and it has enough cpu to run complex calculations for the CERN while having an dual boost tank and tripple BCU active.

What a joke. Soon a frig will do more damage than a BC. All this nerfing makes me sick. I do not pay my subscription for this crap. I want to play without having to buy Plex in addition to the subscription and all you seem to be doing is to ensure that people can't make enough isk so that they have to buy Plex. I am disgusted.

Please focus on expanding the game instead of these stupid configuration changes that **** people off.

Of course it's so easy to change a few parameters rather than design and develop new features. Let me guess all developers are busy with something else. This work doesn't need developers.

And, yes I do expect this post to be deleted like many of my previous ones including the likes received. A bit inconvenient right?

Ubat X X X

You are in a brawler setup if you are getting kited then you are likely going to die. At least the Ferox with its optimal bonus and null allows you to do damage out to long point range. 2:30 seconds is forever in PVP. Null still gives you a respectable 550 DPS 470 + 80 from drones or 620 DPS overheated. The 5 low slots also give you plenty of room for different mods be they damage mods tracking enhancers or nano/overdrives. The new Ferox will be a very effective ship.

Wiv

The Brutix is tight on PG, makes trying to fit reppers quite difficult as the pay off is you lose dps in fitting electrons. I think having 5% bonus to armor resist per level would make more sense than the rep bonus that the Myrm already has.