EVE General Discussion

Actually the current state of null income for line members reflects the risk vs reward there. No buff needed.

Pride

Not trolling at all. I seriously want to know why people live there ingame if it sucks so bad. I mean it must suck because a vast majority of the topics here are about why null sec sucks compared to high sec.

The answer is "we don't".

Many of us would prefer to (live in null) , but because of the current state of things, it's easier to just run missions and incursions or afk mine or build stuff in High Sec with little risk of being killed rather than make the same or slightly more isk in null..

You want us to leave you alone, support the Null Sec Independence Movement, which can happen for only a measly 15% of reduction your income and some industry upgrades from CCP. THEN we'll leave you alone.

Of course that means you'll go broke because WE ARE YOUR MARKET (call it the price of your ignorant short-sightedness) , but hey, at least you won't have nerf high sec threads to be forced at gunpoint to read.

look people want all the benefits of high sec in terms of money making without everpresent concord in case they want to shoot things

what they want is utopia,eve was desinged to be cold,harsh,unbalanced,unfair place with god giving you middle finger every time you log in

its unfair to shoot defenseless miner the same way its unfair to make more money in high sec

it was designed that way,it doesnt make sense and it doesnt have to make sense because nobody gave out rights to players

you have no right,you are on your own,nobody cares and nothing will change

pay your 15 bucks and stfu

"Yeah, all the trade hubs where all the money is made is in high sec, that's whack!"

I don't like neutrals

I was essentially born in nullsec. Technically, I started the game at some Pator Tech School in minmatar space, but within a week I was living 99% in nullsec. I go to highsec to buy things and shoot people sometimes.

But now that I'm used to a nullsec lifestyle, I can't really stand being in highsec for any length of time. I know getting weirded out by all the neutrals in every system is all in my head, but aside from Jita I almost never see any one chatting in local. All these people silently doing whatever highsec people do.

And all the aggression rules are frustrating when you are use to being able to shoot any one at any time. I know some people pride themselves on bending these rules for fun and profit, and I appreciate the effort that goes into that. But all these rules are just too contrived for me to really get immersed in it.

Over all, my life in nullsec is more rewarding and more interesting. The isk to me made is pretty good, if you are smart and are willing to put up with some extra effort. And if hostiles show up, I know I can just undock in a combat ship and go shoot them. No mucking around with wardecs or fretting over how to get agro and avoid NPC involvement.



I do think some people are blowing the "nullsec sucks" way out of proportion.

I think some people are frustrated that the only big isk making opportunities available to individuals are pretty much limited to shooting red crosses. Forum warriors love the rebut with "Tech moons" but only part of nullsec has tech moons, and the other moon minerals just barely pay for fuel costs.

And even shooting rats plateaus at a certain point, when the income becomes a matter of luck on loot drops. I've seen plenty of my own corp mates roll alts to do things like datacore farming, FW farming, highsec industry, all because it was more regular and predictable than flying all over nullsec just to pick up some Overseers Effects.

Nullsec is in a rut where the only activities are either (A) doing the gimped sov grind, (B) ratting, and (C) trying to gank ratters. Their isn;t much opportunity to do anything else or ambush people doing anything else.

For an area of the game that is supposed to be wide open and molded by the players, the actual activities available are really quite limiting.

don't quit your day job

Thanks for that answer. Very well put.