EVE General Discussion

So bascially as it stands theres naffall changes being implemented / proposed changes planned for FW?

Nice waste of a thread..............again...........if this is the case.

Can one of the GM's confirm things are being looked at? or has it been shelved?

Would be nice to know where things stand either way.

They are making sites respawn differently, not only after DT, which is great, but SO THE **** WHAT

Just NOW they are getting to it?

Unfortunately, that's just player speculation. Team Pink Zombie Kittens didn't say what the fix was, only that they are programming it right now.

Ccp no mention if fw in notes ?

is this another round table momnet again. Looking that way

They also don't mention nebulas or gate travel changes, or changes to fitting screen, etc, etc, etc.

Dont assume that just because FW isn't on the features page means they've skipped out on it again. There's a ton of stuff in the SiSi build not included in the Crucible page.

I'd be pessimistic too if the developers didn't already tell us they are actively programming a Faction Warfare iteration as we speak.

There was a comment in the SISI thread (about the current release) that stated there was content in the new SISI build that hadn't been mentioned in the dev blogs yet...

That being said, I am inclined to agree that it appears that there is no FW content in this patch (besides the customs office being seeded in the LP store at 1/2 the price it is in the concord store...

No, you're not the only one. On the other hand, the destroyer boosts would mitigate the Dramiel effect, making their use not so overpowered. I think it remains to be seen, personally I'd rather them fix the plex spawn timers and standings stuff (regarding repping) first, since those are a known issue. Once the known issues are fixed, than I'd say move on to the theoretical incoming imbalances.

This is of course, assuming we only get one fix worked on at a time.

Did the coercer get another mid slot?

I must not have done the math right. If what you say is true the new fad in fw frigs will be to leave them in the station - at least if you want to plex.

Hans: This won't mitigate the dramiel effect it will replace it with something worse. Drams could be beat with hookbills, daredevils and even sometimes slicers, thrashers, and comets or even 2 t1 frigs if they both had webs. There was a decent variety of ships and options. Outside fo plexes assault ships could easilly fight off drams and sometimes steal the occasional kill.


Destroyers are some of the most boring ships in eve. Everyone in a minor plex will be flying not only the same ships but the same 3 or 4 fits.

I don't have a problem with the boost as a whole. (at least not much of one) Destroyers are to frigaates what bcs are to cruisers. They just don't belong in minors anymore than bcs belong in medium plexes.

I wanted to drop by and tank Hans for summing up important points that need fixing. All these points are critical for future of FW. Especially the DT problem. CCP should base their changes on the original post.

I want to provide some ideas here.

Here is my idea about Conquering systems.

Right now conquering the system does give no rewards at all, and is being ignored by many. CCP has actually introduced a new contesting system to EVE: Incursions!!!

Make FW contesting like incursions. Make systems gather contest points normally. At half contest value the incursion script kicks in and rope pulling game begins. Defending side will try to decontest system while offending side willl push for a victory. Players who participate in this tug of war get LP counters on their journals. When offending side wins and conquers the system the offense side players gain that LP. When defending side wins and decontests system defensive side players gain that LP.

Also make sure that the systems initially have minors only...as the contest amount rises minor plex amounts decline and we get more meds....as the contest amount approaches max major plexes will begin to spawn and we'll get less and less medium plexes and no minor plexes at all. (Make sure you somehow nerf my rifter being able to speedtank amarr majors without any problems)

The systems that have incursion script active should be shown in the journal (like incursions) and playes should be able to see the progress. So that when a fw player logs in he should be able to know where to go....current FW button in stations doesn't provide necessary intel conveniently.

One more thing that bothers me is that I can go deep in enemy territory and do plexes there. Borders should have a meaning. Limit defensive plex spawn to 3 jumps from nearest enemy occupied system. So that fighting will occur at border systems and you need to push borders to advance in enemy territory.

Finally there is the problem of Amarr (Pator, New Caldari, Luminaire). I want to invade that place. Give us some key systems. When they are taken down let us be able to march to enemy Capital and conquer it.