EVE General Discussion

Another idea, based on the news of the winter expansion is to make the Custom Offices in FW space owned by the controlling faction of the system. For example if Minmatar occupies a system, then all the Custom Offices in that system are owned by the Minmatar. As such they will only allow faction members access to it, and a low - non existent tax on it.

However, also create a plex that is linked to it, and control of the plex by the enemy faction will offline the custom office (and lock the plex) for 6 hours. When the plex is under attack though, there will be a warning system in place to alert the controlling militia to come defend it.

Then to hopefully, further entice people to care about the planet, increase the raw materials on the planet, more to null sec standards.

So you mean that is is good for fw that 1 or 2 guys will make system near to vulnerable in 3 weeks without any pvp, then they have to face whole enemy militia. Does not sound like small scale pvp to me.

Still, its a bug, I'm sure it can be fixed.

Also, great points Har, thanks for your perspective!

And yes, as much as I could just be away with the supercaps, I admit I'm curious to see how the nerf and BC's work at taking them down. Could be a lot of fun ;)

Try to understand, super carriers has nothing to do with actual FW.

Your stuff stays where you left it.
You would be allowed to undock.
You (and your militia) now have an incentive to take back occupation of the system.

Meanwhile, go buy some ships elsewhere and carry on.

The idea being it only affects militia owned stations. If you keep your stuff in a non-militia owned station this won't happen.

It's no different than if your 'home' system gets taken over by WTs overnight and you can't get your stuff out because of them.
Or if you had all your stuff in Amamake and woke up one day to find PL won't let you have it.

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Or you will have an alt in a transport ship get your stuff out.

Yeah, I think if you had a choice between docking at a station where your ship was 100% safe, and a station that you could be locked out of the next day through no fault of your own, no one would ever dock at the militia stations.

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A:Reworking of Faction Complex Beacons:

-Small plexes can now accept not only t1 frigs and destroyers but t2 as well, it makes little sense that faction frigs can enter one but t2 cant, simple change for more fun all around similar to the way sisi frig beacon rules were changed.
-Capping plex gives gives fixed ammount of Loyalty Points based on size of it. LP's are spread between all the players that capture it.
-Rework of agro mechanics of plex rats, so that capping large plex isnt as simple as having one speedy frig kiteing while other player caps the plex. That way both smaller and larger ships will be useful for there own size of plex and players would actually need to engage rats in order to get plex.

Reason for change: this gives incentive for players to actually bother with plex capping and system flopping, reward for whole day of plexing still wont be anywhere near what player can gain from doing missions but at least there is push to pvp all over low sec and not just in few active systems. Numbers are optional and can be tweaked but still there should be some kind of reward for it. Example player can gain 1 billion isk from full day of farming FW missions or 15-20k LP's from doing the same with plex pvp.



B: Systems Owned and Player Rank

-Possible rework of militia ranks so that they are gained through pvp rather then pve, that way focus is pushed towards pvp and militia is more aligned with its true purpose rather then it being ISK farming ground for non pvp players.
-Number of systems gives monthly reward of LP's based on ones militia rank. The more systems that faction owns and higher the rank of character the better the reward. Since there are around 100 systems (101 is it?) that can be split between 2 faction this could be done in such a way that every system owned above 50 gives +x amount of LP after each month spent in militia. Reward wouldn't be to great but it would push players to pvp, grind that max rank and fight for each system since on end of the day that is free LP's.
-Rats on gates belong to militia that owns the system, small change that adds a bit realism to the game.

Reason for change: This pushes players more towards engaging in militia type pvp rather then random lets blow what ever comes our way (pirating) type of play that is predominant now and contradictory to original idea of faction warfare . With actual reason to bother flopping the system players now gain palpable rewards, but due to new militia ranking based on pvp one wont gain it just by passively putting "noob" character into militia but one will have to actually participate if one is to gain his monthly "salary".



C: Killing Opposing Militia Ships and Reward


-This now gives a better LP reward, I know that this mechanic is in some form in the game but if I go with my frigate and manage to get 5 solo kills that shouldn't give me pathetic 10 LP's or what ever it is, obviously there was effort in that which is harder to pull off then killing NPC rats in mission so some kind of palpable reward should be in place. Again nothing like missions but still few hundred for such achievement wouldn't hurt.
-This LP gain works on similar system as points on http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/.
Meaning that ship size of both partys is taken into consideration as well as number of targets on the kill, obviously blobbing and solo pvp are not same thing. NPC damage on kill shouldn't count as extra ship.

Faction Warfare Mission are too farmable and way to rich iskwise. Even as a Stealth Bombing Missioner myself I see this. Plexing is broken and provides little reward besides occasional spurts of PvP and maybe tags and some standing and the Occupancy System is useless as well. Small PvP is to be encouraged with most if not all of the changes to FW. There are several bugs in FW that CCP can fix with about a weeks worth of work TOPS.

My Proposed Solution:
1. FIX THE FREAKING BUGS

Balance Missions so they are the same difficulty all across the board. Make them more difficult so that Lvl 4's cannot be solo'd in a bomber. Reduce their LP output slightly. Simultaneously increase LP bounties and Agent Standing increases(explained later) for FW enemy PvP kills in a way that makes it unprofitable to farm an alt but so that those who PvP get a good bonus. (Say if i solo a BS in a T1 Frig i get about a half of that ships value of that ship in LP so about 10-30,000 LP, have these rewards decrease accordingly with the higher type of ship that you were in and the lower type of ship the enemy was in.) Also introduce some sort of LP reward for Plexing and increase the Agent Standing increase(instead of Tags being turned in for Store items maybe they convert straight to LP) Once again so that this process makes it more profitable for people to plex and reduces the importance of missions but discourages plex farming.

Missions should still be the primary way for FW people to earn a living. However to reduce farming we could initiate a system where FW agent standings (not faction standings) degrade over time. Lets say 0.05 per day or whatever would be the most balanced. Missions still earn you decent standings increase(lets say up to level 2 Missions standing equivalent). But the standings increase decreases as you go upwards. However with a large increase in Standing Increases for PvP kills as well as plexing this increase the importance of plexing and PvP and reduces farming.

Increase the amount of importance of plexing in occupancy with the introduction of LP rewards and standings increase for plexing and change the Occupancy system to affect Gameplay to some degree(While still leaving room for PvP. Station guns firing when a person holds complete occupancy is a good way to do this. It limits the effectiveness of Station Camping by WTS, encourages plexing, and PvP won't really decrease because most PvP doesn't happen on station anyway). Increase the frequency of plex PvP by introducing more reliable intel for plexs. Such as an absolute value for occupancy and something as simple as a warning that says "PLEX OPEN IN INSERT_SYSTEM_NAME_HERE". Change the plexing system so that noobs in T1 Frigs can fight other noobs in T1 frigs.

Minor changes such as a way that FW Corporations could recruit more effectively from General Militia.

The only way I would want alliance members to join militia is if their was some way to limit the amount of people who could join so that the blob warfare(Supercap or not) does not become a reality.


The hopeful results of these changes(Even though most likely CCP will only fix the bugs and not change the current system to much). Are that with the Standings changes farming alts are reduced, Pirate activity(and thus PvP) increase because of the larger amount of shinies roaming the pipes to do missions. Plexing PvP encourages small gang warfare that more people will be involved in due to the rewards and penalties. More people will join FW and their will be much rejoicing.