EVE General Discussion

Part of me is still in disbelief.

I understand that there's probably a lot of really stressful engine problems CCP has been struggling with, but holy ****, it's been like 7 years of this. I thought we were finally making progress. I fully expect them to make a half-assed attempt to put all the players looking forward to WiS at ease this coming fanfest, but i don't think anyone will be falling for it again.

Forum activity has fallen to an all time low ever since Star Citizen and the new Elite were announced, which can't be a coincidence. Apathy has set in now that it's clear EVEs days are numbered. The one hope to breathe new life into this game was WiS, so this is the final nail in the coffin as far as i'm concerned.

Those of you who fought so hard to keep this game as simple as it is, grats, you win an empty server.

I think you're overstating your case a bit by implying the servers will be empty because there's no evidence "The Door" will ever be opened.

Concurrent users have been right up around 40k every time I've logged in this week.

That seems impossible if the server will empty out over lack of WiS development. Not to mention that WiS didn't add any complexity to Eve in any way, shape, or form.

I think you should have chastized people who argued against multiple gigabytes of useless fluff being added to their clients.

It's fine that people like yourself just want space combat and see anything else as 'fluff', but many people playing EVE hunger for more, and upcoming games are going to be offering the complete space experience EVE has always promised but never delivered.

The violent opposition from people like yourself to everything except space combat may seem like fun and games now, but the reality of what you've been begging for will set in when all that's left are people like yourself. You'll probably end up leaving EVE to play one of the newer games yourself after hisec production grinds to a halt and there are no more 'carebears' to harass.

"Violent opposition" huh? On internet forums we have "violent opposition?"

Laughably and demonstrably false.

The reality of what I've been "begging for" is that our clients are something like 3x the size they used to be, with no extra functionality whatsoever.

If WiS development had been centered around more than just the virtual equivalent of $1k jeans, maybe your claims would have an iota of validity.

Point taken, and i'd definitely say it's indicative of a problem. EVE has been stagnating for years now and a couple predators have just appeared to take advantage.



I'm a 2005 player who now regrets recently extending my sub another 6 months. Lots of people like myself have been investing time in EVE looking forward to the future. If things are just going to remain pretty much the same, and there is no real future except a couple new ships or something, there's no reason to keep investing time in this. We'll just cut our losses and move on.

Can I have your stuff?

I'm one of the players who would like to see Walking in Stations finished.

I'd love to be able to chill in a station pub / game room with other players and play games.

It'd be nice to look out of a window and see the ships docking and undocking.

I don't think WiS is what did Incarna in - it was the bad noble exchange design that got people really upset. But since the two things happened in the same expansion both took the blame for the dramatic loss of subscriptions.

CCP should continue to focus on EVE online as a space game. The focus should continue to be on player interactions and giving the players the tools to do what they want. To me this means more building options, more political options, and more interaction between 0.0, low sec, wormhole space, and high sec.

I would like to see the ability in Faction Warfare to split system control so that each system could have presence from both sides and they would fight it out to push the other side out of the system. I don't like the one or the other side control of a system. There is so much that CCP can still do with EVE to push it forward and grow its playerbase by providing the tools to players to engage in the activities that they want to.

Unfortunately, a lot gets lost in focus on specific areas of the game without looking to the broader picture. Incursions were and are amazing but they just aren't integrated into the overall game universe. They are just like missions - a separate and different element of the game where what one does with them really has no impact. You can't even go to the Sansha home systems to try and prevent the incursions. They just keep happening regardless of player involvement. If players 'beat' an incursion a new one happens. If players ignore an incursion a new one happens.

The end result is the same and that makes me sad. They were an incredible potential tool to link 0.0, low sec, high sec, and wormhole space together. For example, an incursion site could have opened wormholes to the different types of space allowing players to move through. If an incursion was allowed to culminate and 'win' then the security status / sovereignty of the system could be changed.

The universe needs to become more dynamic in my opinion. But, at the same time, I am playing EVE and enjoying myself. I just keep wishing for that overall vision of greater player impact on the game universe itself and, yeah, I want Walking in Stations finished. More player interaction is good. Imagine the diplomatic opportunities of meeting in stations.

Im glad Star Citizens and Elite will be making an appearance, havn't seen a space sim like X-Wing/TIE Fighter & Freespace 2 for some time. Star Citizens will be moddable like Skyrim/Arma series, thats something I am really looking forward to.

I'll still play EvE as nothing has its universe and gameplay, but if I want something different in a spacegame for a bit, I hope I can turn to alternatives.

Respect.

WIS was/is a good idea horrifically implemented. It is good that is gone until such time as the devs can "incorporate" it into the already existing eve world.

Getting it to run at the same frame rates as the rest of the current game should be goal number one when they go back to it, in a few years.

I can only hope WiS gets axed forever.

FPS style play has no place in space simulation combat game.

If you want FPS play, then play dust that is what it is for.