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Dev blog: Must... Cleanup... Market... : Retribution Market Improvements

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CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-11-21 15:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Some areas of the market window have been a little.... cluttered. To say the least. We all know the joys of navigating through the thickest of it but apparently CCP FoxFour does not share that joy. He has taken it up on himself to iron out some of the kinks and get rid of some of the inconsistencies, and written a dev blog explaining his goals with each change in the numerous divisions.

You can read the blog here.

As always we want to hear what you have to say about these changes, be it positive or negative.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-11-21 15:09:18 UTC
YAY! Market cleanup! Hope you guys enjoy. :D

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Delta3000
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-11-21 15:11:40 UTC
First!

Overwriting fuzzy logic ftw.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-11-21 15:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Graygor
Second non CCP employee woot!

Good changes there. And thank god for doing it, the market organisation feels like the red haired step child of all the features in game. Good to see it getting some love.

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Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-11-21 15:18:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alx Warlord
I can feel the love on it!!! Big smile

Welcome changes!!!

About using the faction Icon, I really loved it, and it would be nice to see it every time a faction name appear...

And... how about separate hull from armor? also, remember... it is time to revamp the POS System!!!!


and Thx CCP FoxFour

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#6 - 2012-11-21 15:21:35 UTC
Loving those icons. Add them everywhere ! P
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#7 - 2012-11-21 15:22:24 UTC
nth + 1!

Can't see anything to moan about in those changes so must be good work.Big smile

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-11-21 15:24:20 UTC
Wooo finally \o/

Intuitive market groups that EFT has already been using for years \o/

And yes, the BP section was just horrible

The Drake is a Lie
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2012-11-21 15:24:50 UTC
Jackie Fisher wrote:
nth + 1!

Can't see anything to moan about in those changes so must be good work.Big smile


Thanks... I think. :P

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Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-11-21 15:30:28 UTC
I am consumed by the desire to go into my own warehouse and reorganize the company inventory. Damn you! Damn you to hell!

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-11-21 15:30:53 UTC
you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ?
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#12 - 2012-11-21 15:31:13 UTC
A feature request: I'd like to be able to cancel my Buy Orders and Sell Orders from the Market window, instead of having to go the my Wallet and re-finding the order there. I can already modify the Orders I've created from the Market window, so why can't I also cancel them?

(Note also that it's possible to cancel any order - from the Wallet window - even if you're half a galaxy away. There's no same-Region requirement. Is that working as intended?)
eidenjunior
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-11-21 15:32:55 UTC
Love it!!!!!!!!
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2012-11-21 15:33:59 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ?


Not really against that... but no that is not the only reason. I guess if you would prefer I could have just not said anything about it and just released it.

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CCP Arrow
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-11-21 15:34:37 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:
Loving those icons. Add them everywhere ! P

Big smile

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-21 15:35:35 UTC
Separate categories for different sized plates/different resistances? Has Christmas come early?!

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Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
#17 - 2012-11-21 15:38:00 UTC
First of all, love that things are being made more clear and organized nicely, great!

Maybe it's just me but I got used to not using the market browser pretty quick. It's time consuming, not everything is listed, and the organization might have been worse when I began.

If you're going to put work into the browsing of the market, consider a newbie-friendly approach since it probably literally doesn't get used by more veteran players.

I really liked the DUST 514 market, it looked more like the type of market you'd find now a days online, rather then a bunch of vague trees that I had to hope my item was at the bottom.

Maybe create a bunch of categories (armor, resistance, ship module, weapon, etc) and allow the user to put a few filters together to limit what they're looking at? Most of the time you KNOW what type of thing you're looking for, just not where it is.. Allow them to input what sort of thing they're looking for and reward them with a list of related items. They could even start at this sort of "market overview filter" and filter down to a category, that when they click, they go over to the market browser.

Just a thought, the market is super-inaccessible to new players, and they're the ones using the browser.

Maybe consider putting ALL the items on the market, and for the ones that aren't allowed (essentially the ones you haven't added yet) put a little blurb "Item not available from market, click HERE to view in contracts" which then, obviously, opens the contract window with the given search.

Keep up the great work!

-Valk
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-11-21 15:39:11 UTC
- Targetting annoying Market behaviour
- Target Locked
- CCP , FOXFOUR!
- Annoying Marketting behaviour is hit for over 9000 anti-papercut damage!
- Annoying Marketting behaviour has been destroyed.


Whooohoo !!!
Score another victory against the papercuts!

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-11-21 15:40:45 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
you just want to harvest some likes with this, don't you ?


Not really against that... but no that is not the only reason. I guess if you would prefer I could have just not said anything about it and just released it.


credit where credit is due ;)
Crynsos Cealion
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-11-21 15:42:07 UTC
Now it would be great if we actually could sell exploration loot like faction POS towers / modules and the various faction drones on the market as well.
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