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All 4 races getting skirmish options on their commands?

Also, it seems kinda lame that the Prophecy is becoming a drone boat. It would be much better suited to follow the Apoc line of range with pulses for less top end damage. Honestly, nobody is going to use it if it can only use 3-4 heavy drones and still be **** with lasers. If you make it Ewar based, then it becomes completely out of whack with the other BC's.

Ferox should get the 5% resist, and range bonus with some slot reconfig and maybe 1 more rail. Steal one of it's 4 lows and add an additional mid slot. And it sorely needs more fittings.

Drake needs to straight up lose the resist bonus in place of something else. I'd say missile velocity would make sense in that line of ships.

Let the ferox be the unique tanker.

How is multiple jump clones going to help you run 2 or 3 differnt types of links on the same ship?

Pick the appropriate clone (and mindlink) for that particular fleet.

My argument isn't an argument, its a question directed at the guys making the change, and its fairly simple:

The ships are being redesigned to support multiple links, are the mindlinks going to be altered to follow this or is this intended game design to weaken links across the board on top of the already coming nerf (armor and skirmis boosts for example are going to be weakened on a t3, drastically, coupled with the fact that now some of the bonuses might not be mindlink boosted which means its in effect a double nerf to fully use the ship as designed)

I'm asking if this is on purpose or if its under consideration or if they hadn't thought of it as a consequence

By your logic the change is essentially useless then, and will have little to no effect, because in a non shocker thats exactly what you have to do now, so one might wonder whats the point in altering the command ships at all.

Why not leave the fleet comman as single bonus ships and instead of double stacking bonuses give the field commands the alternate bonus instead.

So like the Damnation gets the armor bonus and the Absolution can give a skirmish bonus. The idea of multiple bonuses off one hull seems wasted if they're not going to be fully bonused, eve is full of min maxers, and it seems silly to waste time programing something that simply wont be used.

I do the multiple jump clone thing, which is all fine and well until you do something like jump into the skirmish clone for a fleet, the fleet fills up, is about to get underway, and then the FC asks if anyone can fly a damnation, because the one we had needed to log off and we can't leave without a damnation...

If the idea is that the you can use the same ship either for boosting one kind of links or boosting another, then this change to the fleet command ships is entirely economic. You aren't getting anything more out of the ship than you would by having two different ships each with one bonus, like we have now. That isn't a good reason to make changes to the ship.

I rather like Grath's idea of splitting the bonuses between the two command ships for the race.

Oh lord.

You do have at least four months. This is not happening in Retribution:



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equals: it's not happening all that soon. It's happening when the battlecruiser changes are rolled out. Fear not. You have some planning time. I promise that you will appreciate the love and kittens out of Battlecruiser V, though.

To save you some hunting through the thread for this, here is what you need for maximum reward:

Every racial frigate to IV
Every racial cruiser to III
Destroyers V
Battlecruisers V

This will give you all of the new skills at V. The racial frigate to IV is only because you need it to inject the cruiser skills. If you only care about destroyers, you only need all of the frigates to III. The reason this works is that gives you the ability, pre-patch, to sit in every T1 destroyer and T1 battlecruiser in the game. That's all you need to get V in all of the new skills.

I'm not really seeing the advantage of separating bonuses. As the plan stands one can simply change clones and links and you have a new fully bonused set of links without changing ships while also having a choice of weapons systems which will be more relevant if/when the changes come that force boosters to be on grid.

Ok, ask yourself this: Not many trained for an Eos (CCPs own words not mine), CCP are making a drive to get people into hulls that aren't used, after this change, what motivates you to train for the commanship (Eos)nobody uses now when a Damnation can do the same thing?

EDIT: It feels like the idea of haviing multiple bonuses was to make the ships more attractive to use, like the Eos could run a mixture of Info and Armor links, thus people MIGHT start fielding them in fleets, but if you must still pick only a single set, then of course you'd pick the armor set, and the Damnation would be the preffered choice because of its more robust tank if it needs to be on grid.

What your edit said Grath.