Player Features and Ideas Discussion

TL/DR: "Many ratters and miners want to keep local because otherwise they might as well follow the rest of the miners and ratters into WHs, FW or hisec and spend less time on this terrible, terrible game".

Fixed your fix.

And what is wrong with the meta game aspect? Game mechanics and CCP totally allow for spies to infiltrate and engage in espionage and sabotage. It is a valid profession and we have many members that do it for both fun and profit.

I hear there's this thing called "wormholes". I think you can mine there, too, and do 2 hour intel gathering stints if you so choose.

Are you saying CCP'll buff nullsec rewards past WH levels?

Do you really want to play in the wilderness of Eve? No local should also mean no gates, no outposts, no market, and no ship spinning.

Eve already has a place with delayed local and several other mechanics to mitigate hot drops and blobs.


You might want to seriously consider wormholes, especially now that we have reset your alliance.

Removing local will “nerf nullsec” for those who live there to a degree by making carebearing more dangerous and expensive. It will also drive significant numbers of these carebears to either wh or hi sec since making ISK will be safer there than in null without local. That is probably not a good thing since null is not populated enough as it is IMO.
Yet local is a weird mechanic that has not worked as intended from the beginning. Perhaps a way to go is to remove local’s intelligence gathering capability and add it to where it belongs – D-scan. Here are some ideas on how to boost D-scan:
1) Make it perma run. 20th century technology does not have a problem making radars sweep automatically, neither should warp-capable ships of the future.
2) Add friend or foe identification to it – just port the standings display from local or overview.
3) Add capability to filter out unpiloted ships, POS trash, and friendly pilots.
4) Add sov upgrades to extend D-scan range for friendly pilots.

Again, I like outposts, markets, and ship spinning.

The package deal is too much of a headache for just the one option that sounds appealing.

If I see you in space, I'll be sure to say hi. You goons are always a fun bunch. Enjoy the reset.

Because last I checked, CCP Soundwave was talking about reducing the rewards across all of eve by 10%, so my prediction of what'd happen if CCP did this would be they'd buff the rewards, remove local, then go "holy **** my economy" and nerf the rewards within a few months.

If I were to say "I want CCP to give me 1b isk/hour just for staying docked in nullsec" I would expect tons of opposition to that idea, because it's wrong, just like I'm against removing local without making changes to how nullsec works and how profitable it is in relation to the other sec areas to make it worth it for as many people as possible to move their isk-making alts back, because otherwise it's just because some people want to score some easy kills.

But then again, I do expect people to go "up the rewards in nullsec? but that can't happen without a subsequent increase in isk sinks, because the economy is already suffering from monetary inflation as it is, let alone if a majority of nullsec moved their isk-making alts back to nullsec and made enough isk to make it worth the extra effort", etc etc etc.

No no a buff to null would have to come in the form of items you have to move and sell more liquid ISK injection in to eve is failure logic.

What we need is shooting the same things we have now still gives bounties and CCP needs to add items to null that are valuable for trade aka shoot thing receive item sell item.to players for ISK.

That's how you buff null without breaking the economy.