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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#901 - 2012-11-17 01:41:38 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
I would like to take this opportunity to point out the obvious. Yeah, I already know there is going to be a lot of hate replies but oh well. I also said I was not sticking around. I lied. I just wanted to wait a see if someone with more experience than I would come along and post an intelligent thought for once. Ok on to the obvious!

This thread is now full of goonswarm trolls and are still the only ones defending local in nullsec. To those that are defending that are not a part of goonswarm, I believe you are corporate spies for goonswarm. If your not, prove it!

I vote a move to have this thread locked for ranting and redundancy of rants with no valid points all saying the same thing on both sides of the argument. Both side's points have been made here and there and duly noted I am sure.

I say all you goonswarm folks need to move out into W-space if you are that bored and hard pressed for money. Way more isk to be made in WHs than hisec and it's not as risky as you might think. You can literately go for days without seeing a soul unless your not keeping up with d-scans and staying in one spot for too long.

Edit: Special thanks to BoBoZoBo and Ra'Shyne Viper.


1) Special thanks for what?

2) Agreed this thread should be locked. It has all been said over and over, some guys just want to ignore what the other is saying mostly based on some stupid thing like not posting with what they think is their main/alt or because they have the wrong corp tag. WTF does that have anything to do with anything... ridiculous. Personally, it gives me no motivation to go back to Null living so enjoy the diminished population guys. In the end it has nothing to do with the disposition of local chat, it's really how you are running the sandbox space CCP has gifted you.

Enjoy the lack of local in your home of choice.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#902 - 2012-11-17 01:42:40 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.


WHers don't have to deal with (covert/normal) cyno hotdrops where if you mistake one covops for a friendly, miss the time that it takes for them to recloak from a gate, or be out of range from the gate, you get pointed and suddenly a 25 man cloaky gang pops up on your overview and ends you. Or a titan shows up and dds your ratting carrier/dread.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#903 - 2012-11-17 01:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

And as an added bonus, I'll even tell you why.

Cloaked ships can't sneak up on you in wormholes. Why? To find you they have to probe down the site you're in. These probes show up in D-Scan. In nullsec finding anomalies is as easy as clicking "scan" in the same window, except you don't need probes, and you can even do it while cloaked. D-Scan is useless for this. The only caveat is you can't do it while you're warping.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#904 - 2012-11-17 01:43:38 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
Just so you know, You don't need local to run anoms, or greens as we call them. We have the same risk in WH anoms. It's called d-scans. learn 2 play the game newbs. Here let me help you local fanatics out.

Just so you know, unlike in WHs, nullsec anoms do not need any probes to find them, which means cloaked ships can (and will) find you without giving away the fact they're hunting for you.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#905 - 2012-11-17 01:47:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#906 - 2012-11-17 01:48:01 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.


Good argument
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#907 - 2012-11-17 01:50:36 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Man, this is so ironic, listening to some wormhole dweller who lives off of the wonderful and profitable sleepers while protected by their PVE being concentrated in signatures which have to be probed down, and entrances/exits that are collapsible and also have to be probed down, while also not ever having to worry about hot drops literally ever, telling me how I'm the one with no balls playing on easy mode.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#908 - 2012-11-17 01:52:26 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Man, this is so ironic, listening to some wormhole dweller who lives off of the wonderful and profitable sleepers while protected by their PVE being concentrated in signatures which have to be probed down, and entrances/exits that are collapsible and also have to be probed down, while also not ever having to worry about hot drops literally ever, telling me how I'm the one with no balls playing on easy mode.

This is literally the best post in the whole thread.

I wish I could like it twice.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#909 - 2012-11-17 01:53:00 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.


WHers don't have to deal with (covert/normal) cyno hotdrops where if you mistake one covops for a friendly, miss the time that it takes for them to recloak from a gate, or be out of range from the gate, you get pointed and suddenly a 25 man cloaky gang pops up on your overview and ends you. Or a titan shows up and dds your ratting carrier/dread.

Mmm, someone Doomsdaying your ratting capital.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#910 - 2012-11-17 01:55:18 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Man, this is so ironic, listening to some wormhole dweller who lives off of the wonderful and profitable sleepers while protected by their PVE being concentrated in signatures which have to be probed down, and entrances/exits that are collapsible and also have to be probed down, while also not ever having to worry about hot drops literally ever, telling me how I'm the one with no balls playing on easy mode.

Then come into the whs and find me. Prove it... prove it is easier than nullsec. here let me even help you out and show you how to use combat probes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O561wrlNSk

Yes, yes... Our PVE is doing sites while constantly being hunted down by cloaky t3s. You wouldn't last a day without local.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#911 - 2012-11-17 01:55:37 UTC  |  Edited by: MasterEnt
EI Digin wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.


WHers don't have to deal with (covert/normal) cyno hotdrops where if you mistake one covops for a friendly, miss the time that it takes for them to recloak from a gate, or be out of range from the gate, you get pointed and suddenly a 25 man cloaky gang pops up on your overview and ends you. Or a titan shows up and dds your ratting carrier/dread.



Well don't make a mistake then. Once again proving you don't want local nerfed out of fear of your own incompetence and fear of loss, at least one of those two Cynos show up on overview, so WTF is the issue?

Situational awareness, unfortunately its not a skill you can buy, maybe that is the real problem here.
If we get that on the market, will that satisfy you?

LOL
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#912 - 2012-11-17 01:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Man, this is so ironic, listening to some wormhole dweller who lives off of the wonderful and profitable sleepers while protected by their PVE being concentrated in signatures which have to be probed down, and entrances/exits that are collapsible and also have to be probed down, while also not ever having to worry about hot drops literally ever, telling me how I'm the one with no balls playing on easy mode.

Then come into the whs and find me. Prove it... prove it is easier than nullsec. here let me even help you out and show you how to use combat probes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O561wrlNSk

Yes, yes... Our PVE is doing sites while constantly being hunted down by cloaky t3s. You wouldn't last a day without local.

"Find me where there's no local and the entrances and exits to where I am are in a state of dynamic flux. I'll link you a youtube video about how to use probes (which I cannot distinguish from drones), but that won't help you find the entrance to the hidden secret system I'm cowering in. Nevermind that all these factors make interlopers in my space unlikely, your static space needs local removed too, despite all the disparities."

I'm starting to see the true strength of this argument.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#913 - 2012-11-17 02:00:31 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
"Find me where there's no local and the entrances and exits to where I am are in a state of dynamic flux. I'll link you a youtube video about how to use probes (which I cannot distinguish from drones), but that won't help you find the entrance to the hidden secret system I'm cowering in. Nevermind that all these factors make interlopers in my space unlikely, your static space needs local removed too, despite all the disparities."

I'm starting to see the true strength of this argument.

Yes. You're being trolled.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#914 - 2012-11-17 02:01:35 UTC
Delete some personal attacks; please try and avoid reverting to profanity to get your point across; it's against the rules!

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]

Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#915 - 2012-11-17 02:01:38 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.


WHers don't have to deal with (covert/normal) cyno hotdrops where if you mistake one covops for a friendly, miss the time that it takes for them to recloak from a gate, or be out of range from the gate, you get pointed and suddenly a 25 man cloaky gang pops up on your overview and ends you. Or a titan shows up and dds your ratting carrier/dread.



Well don't make a mistake then. Once again proving you don't want local nerfed out of fear of your own incompetence and fear of loss, at least one of those two Cynos show up on overview, so WTF is the issue?

Situational awareness, unfortunately its not a skill you can buy, maybe that is the real problem here.
If we get that on the market, will that satisfy you?

LOL

I know right. such total failsauce if only they were aware of their surroundings instead of watching local.

Bring Saede Riordan back!! Never Forget! _"__Operation Godzilla Smacks Zeus"  ~__Graygor _

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#916 - 2012-11-17 02:04:36 UTC
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
Then come into the whs and find me. Prove it... prove it is easier than nullsec. here let me even help you out and show you how to use combat probes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O561wrlNSk

And this has no bearing on how you would hunt ratters in anoms in nullsec. Your point?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#917 - 2012-11-17 02:15:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
Then come into the whs and find me. Prove it... prove it is easier than nullsec. here let me even help you out and show you how to use combat probes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O561wrlNSk

And this has no bearing on how you would hunt ratters in anoms in nullsec. Your point?

There is no point, only the desire to get killmails that aren't moronic enough to sit around for you to hotdrop them.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#918 - 2012-11-17 02:15:38 UTC
The best trolls are the ones you know are trolls, but because there's still that tiny niggling doubt you still feel this irresistible compulsion to correct that certain someone who says things on the internet that aren't quite true.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#919 - 2012-11-17 02:17:03 UTC
This thread is so bad it's actually managed to get past my shiptoasting barriers.

Goodbye thread.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#920 - 2012-11-17 02:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
We have the same risk in WH anoms.

No.
You.
Don't.
You have less.

Cry baby!!!

Frankly, I don't think you have the balls to run in a W-space or without local. Cut away from local you crybaby carebear who wants to keep playing on easy mode.

Man, this is so ironic, listening to some wormhole dweller who lives off of the wonderful and profitable sleepers while protected by their PVE being concentrated in signatures which have to be probed down, and entrances/exits that are collapsible and also have to be probed down, while also not ever having to worry about hot drops literally ever, telling me how I'm the one with no balls playing on easy mode.

Then come into the whs and find me. Prove it... prove it is easier than nullsec. here let me even help you out and show you how to use combat probes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O561wrlNSk

Yes, yes... Our PVE is doing sites while constantly being hunted down by cloaky t3s. You wouldn't last a day without local.


This sounds like "look at me, i'm shpeshuller than you"

I live in WH bud. It's **** easy. almost as easy as high sec. put up a pos and you're good to go until someone scans your wh down. and without local, they ain't gonna know you're in the wh without doing even more scanning.

ratting and anoms are a moot point.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104