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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#821 - 2012-11-16 18:39:53 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
p.s to the razor guy that said "oh, sitting on gate well others mine sounds like a fun activity." Yeah, and mining's a fcuking blast

Yeah, and you get now why most of us don't mine. However we recognize its importance to what we do, so those of us that can't fathom why anybody would enjoy such a thing still support others in our alliances who want to shoot laser beams at stationary rocks.

Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
and lets be real here. if you weren't mining, you'd be sitting on a gate anyway. At least now you have a purpose other then to inflate your precise killboard.

and on that note if you want to pvp kids, stay in the north high sec or FW. i predict in the coming year 0.0 will look very deserted, more so then it already is.

And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#822 - 2012-11-16 18:40:55 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
You must be getting used to all that earwax under your fingernails. It's almost as if you're beginning to enjoy it.


You are right, I didn't want to believe you nullbears were such lazy pussi3s who could not be bothered to find alternate forms of income.

Alternate forms of income. You mean highsec, right? Maybe if you pretended it was your idea, you'd admit to it?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#823 - 2012-11-16 18:47:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremy Soikutsu
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
PvP in null is basically dead, Catch pipe and Curse pipe are the only places anything happens.

I don't know about everywhere else but we see a reasonable amount of small gang action in CE every day. And we're like the most out of the way region in the game. Could it be more, sure, but saying it's dead everywhere is bullshit.

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?

Don't besmirch Soundwave's good name like that. I bet he'll be really hurt if he reads this.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood
#824 - 2012-11-16 18:51:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
p.s to the razor guy that said "oh, sitting on gate well others mine sounds like a fun activity." Yeah, and mining's a fcuking blast

Yeah, and you get now why most of us don't mine. However we recognize its importance to what we do, so those of us that can't fathom why anybody would enjoy such a thing still support others in our alliances who want to shoot laser beams at stationary rocks.

Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
and lets be real here. if you weren't mining, you'd be sitting on a gate anyway. At least now you have a purpose other then to inflate your precise killboard.

and on that note if you want to pvp kids, stay in the north high sec or FW. i predict in the coming year 0.0 will look very deserted, more so then it already is.

And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?


nope, just a simple observation, in 2009 0.0 seemed sort of active i remember looking at the map and seeing all sorts of Christmas lights, now its more like a wet candle.

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Ingame name: Vin Vicious
Mirima Thurander
#825 - 2012-11-16 19:40:37 UTC
I like the fact its the same 3 people defending local.

Clearly there forever alone.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#826 - 2012-11-16 19:48:58 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
I like the fact its the same 3 people defending local.

Clearly there forever alone.

Unlike the 3 on the other side?

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#827 - 2012-11-16 19:50:50 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
I like the fact its the same 3 people defending local.

Clearly there forever alone.

I like the fact it's the same 3 failed gankers wanting to break nullsec further.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#828 - 2012-11-16 19:56:59 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
p.s to the razor guy that said "oh, sitting on gate well others mine sounds like a fun activity." Yeah, and mining's a fcuking blast

Yeah, and you get now why most of us don't mine. However we recognize its importance to what we do, so those of us that can't fathom why anybody would enjoy such a thing still support others in our alliances who want to shoot laser beams at stationary rocks.

Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
and lets be real here. if you weren't mining, you'd be sitting on a gate anyway. At least now you have a purpose other then to inflate your precise killboard.

and on that note if you want to pvp kids, stay in the north high sec or FW. i predict in the coming year 0.0 will look very deserted, more so then it already is.

And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?


nope, just a simple observation, in 2009 0.0 seemed sort of active i remember looking at the map and seeing all sorts of Christmas lights, now its more like a wet candle.

Important point, 2009 didn't have Dominion sov mechanics until late. Coincidence?

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#829 - 2012-11-16 20:03:56 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
p.s to the razor guy that said "oh, sitting on gate well others mine sounds like a fun activity." Yeah, and mining's a fcuking blast

Yeah, and you get now why most of us don't mine. However we recognize its importance to what we do, so those of us that can't fathom why anybody would enjoy such a thing still support others in our alliances who want to shoot laser beams at stationary rocks.

Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
and lets be real here. if you weren't mining, you'd be sitting on a gate anyway. At least now you have a purpose other then to inflate your precise killboard.

and on that note if you want to pvp kids, stay in the north high sec or FW. i predict in the coming year 0.0 will look very deserted, more so then it already is.

And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?


nope, just a simple observation, in 2009 0.0 seemed sort of active i remember looking at the map and seeing all sorts of Christmas lights, now its more like a wet candle.

Important point, 2009 didn't have Dominion sov mechanics until late. Coincidence?

We need more structures to shoot. That'll show those evil sov grinders !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#830 - 2012-11-16 20:47:11 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
You must be getting used to all that earwax under your fingernails. It's almost as if you're beginning to enjoy it.


You are right, I didn't want to believe you nullbears were such lazy pussi3s who could not be bothered to find alternate forms of income.



And all the actual nullsec residents have already said that, without a serious buff to rewards, our alternate form of income will be to move our isk making activities to highsec. After all, that is currently where most Eve players make their incomes. Including many people who consider themselves to be nullsec players.


How about this. How about you tearbears go find some other activity since you suck at ganking ratters in nullsec. Mining, or industry, or trading. Maybe join FW, since it flags the opposing factions as war targets and even gives you a warp-in to their plex/mission site.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#831 - 2012-11-16 20:49:11 UTC
Or they could go to WHs, where local is exactly the way they want it to be. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#832 - 2012-11-16 21:18:02 UTC  |  Edited by: MasterEnt
I think I already admitted that Nullsec needs a buff since you guys can't be bothered to be creative.

For some reason hisec miners need to adapt and find alternate forms of doing things, but the current null population cannot. Interesting development, My mistake for buying into you adapt or die and "emergent gameplay" dogma.

Momma told me never underestimate the power of lazy people in large numbers...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#833 - 2012-11-16 21:19:27 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
I think I already admitted that Nullsec needs a buff since you guys can't be bothered to be creative.

Really? Where did you say that?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#834 - 2012-11-16 21:19:37 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Or they could go to WHs, where local is exactly the way they want it to be. vOv



There is that too.


These guys just don't seem to get that the only isk making activity that is really unique to nullsec is super cap production. Cap production can just move to lowsec. Sub cap and module/ammo production can be done very easily in highsec. The red crosses in w-space pay better and the red crosses in highsec pay pretty good, are over all safer, more available, and closer to markets. PI pays better in nullsec, but not enough to cover the losses that would result from moving incredibly weak industrial ships around.

They also don't get that CCP did not design nullsec to be a lawless space for small gang or solo PvP. It is quite clearly supposed to be a place for large fleets to fight it out over player made empires. Super cap production, millions hp structures, claiming and upgrading systems, etc.

It is just plain sad watching these tearbears flounder around trying to justify why they aren't to blame for being as terrible as they are. They are doing it wrong on so many levels and just don't realize it.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#835 - 2012-11-16 21:19:57 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
For some reason hisec miners need to adapt and find alternate forms of doing things, but the current null population cannot. Interesting development, My mistake for buying into you adapt or die and "emergent gameplay" dogma.

Momma told me never underestimate the power of lazy people in large numbers...

Players min/max. They minimize effort and maximize rewards, and hisec trumps nullsec in this regard. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#836 - 2012-11-16 21:20:11 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
I think I already admitted that Nullsec needs a buff since you guys can't be bothered to be creative.

For some reason hisec miners need to adapt and find alternate forms of doing things, but the current null population cannot. Interesting development.

Momma told me never underestimate the power of lazy people in large numbers...

Clearly the words of somebody who has never been faced with the costs, bottlenecks, and roadblocks of refinery or production in null.

NPC corp tags really do say it all!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#837 - 2012-11-16 21:24:39 UTC  |  Edited by: MasterEnt
Darth Gustav wrote:
NPC corp tags really do say it all!



Why, because I am for the removal of real time local? Of the assumption I have never dont this because I am currently in an NPC corp? Good argument. Clearly this current tag means I have never been a part of any of those things in the past, or a part of them now with other toons.

Oh but wait... I have to post will all my toons for anything to be validated. Right.

Clearly, because I am for the risk removal of real time local presents and because I have found a way to do things you guys havent... clearly I dont know what I am talking about.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#838 - 2012-11-16 21:26:13 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
Why, because I am for the removal of real time local? Of the assumption I have never dont this because I am currently in an NPC corp? Good argument. Clearly this current tag means I have never been a part of any of those things in the past, or a part of them now with other toons.

Oh but wait... I have to post will all my toons for anything to be validated. Right.

So why aren't you derping around in WHs where local is the way you wanted it initially?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#839 - 2012-11-16 21:26:26 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
NPC corp tags really do say it all!



Why, because I am for the removal of real time local? Of the assumption I have never dont this because I am currently in an NPC corp? Good argument. Clearly this current tag means I have never been a part of any of those things in the past, or a part of them now with other toons.

Oh but wait... I have to post will all my toons for anything to be validated. Right.

You'll have to forgive them, they seem to be under the impression that posting with your relevant characters will lend you credibility, when it's already obvious you don't have any. ;)

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#840 - 2012-11-16 21:32:56 UTC
Maybe nullsec isn't empty because of opportunities, maybe its the company kept. Its all good guys, everything is frustrating when you don't know what you are doing. Not everyone can make a sandcastle.

The OP made a statement about nullsecers being disappointing.., I happen to agree. It is as simple as that.