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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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war't0g
Beyond All Reason
#441 - 2012-10-27 22:52:20 UTC
Honestly it would be as simple as changing the type of chatroom local is.... Make it just like playerbased channels or as OP revised later, WH local. Only a total number of people in system displayed and those who talk, not the picture and name of everyone present. Could be the simplest fix in the history of Eve, really...
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#442 - 2012-10-27 22:53:46 UTC
war't0g wrote:
Honestly it would be as simple as changing the type of chatroom local is.... Make it just like playerbased channels or as OP revised later, WH local. Only a total number of people in system displayed and those who talk, not the picture and name of everyone present. Could be the simplest fix in the history of Eve, really...

That's basically what they were saying so...

Uh huh.

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war't0g
Beyond All Reason
#443 - 2012-10-27 22:55:49 UTC
Lol. Ofc. Didn't read far enough into it I guess.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#444 - 2012-10-27 22:57:36 UTC
war't0g wrote:
Honestly it would be as simple as changing the type of chatroom local is.... Make it just like playerbased channels or as OP revised later, WH local. Only a total number of people in system displayed and those who talk, not the picture and name of everyone present. Could be the simplest fix in the history of Eve, really...

Yes, yes, that's what they've been saying all along, and we've been saying all along that unless it's replaced with something which is very similar (or rewards are upped to the level of WHs or thereabouts, and yeah that's not going to happen), null will just depopulate even further. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#445 - 2012-10-27 23:02:32 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
war't0g wrote:
Honestly it would be as simple as changing the type of chatroom local is.... Make it just like playerbased channels or as OP revised later, WH local. Only a total number of people in system displayed and those who talk, not the picture and name of everyone present. Could be the simplest fix in the history of Eve, really...

Yes, yes, that's what they've been saying all along, and we've been saying all along that unless it's replaced with something which is very similar (or rewards are upped to the level of WHs or thereabouts, and yeah that's not going to happen), null will just depopulate even further. vOv

You see, that's the whole idea.

When we do the calculations and decide to go to highsec, we'll give up because it's a horrible place to play EVE, and nullsec is already worthless.

Then we'll leave.

You see, that's their whole idea, and it starts with two simple words.


Nerf

Local

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#446 - 2012-10-28 00:11:29 UTC
Nerf high sec income far enough so it is worth living in null without local, current direction scanner and structure mails. Said that for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time now. Keep on pretending no else has mentioned it but those from your brain trust.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#447 - 2012-10-28 00:12:48 UTC
oh hey look it's the "if you nerf hisec we'll all just quit and then where will you be" brigade derping up to gnaw at your face

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#448 - 2012-10-28 00:22:05 UTC
oh hey its another ostrich.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#449 - 2012-10-28 00:24:51 UTC
It's almost like you haven't seen the "IF YOU NERF HISEC WE'LL JUST QUIT" reaction even if I barely suggested increasing the manufacturing costs, you wouldn't be saying that. But hey, go ahead, start up a "nerf hisec income" thread and see how many hisec pubbies will come out of the woodwork with "we'll just quit".

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Mirima Thurander
#450 - 2012-10-28 00:26:47 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
oh hey its another ostrich.


I like this term I shall now adopt it and from now on ever one must use ostrich when talking or quoting Zim ... I mean that ostrich.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#451 - 2012-10-28 00:30:05 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
oh hey its another ostrich.

This is a pretty clear cut sign when you don't actually have anything substantial to back up your argument.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#452 - 2012-10-28 00:32:25 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
It's almost like you haven't seen the "IF YOU NERF HISEC WE'LL JUST QUIT" reaction even if I barely suggested increasing the manufacturing costs, you wouldn't be saying that. But hey, go ahead, start up a "nerf hisec income" thread and see how many hisec pubbies will come out of the woodwork with "we'll just quit".

In all honesty I would not mind a small handful of people who are well versed in all areas of space and put together a very detailed and extensive idea on a complete revamp of risk vs. income in all space.

A group who does not have a personal agenda. You the whole, "Nerf everything I'm flying/doing and buff everything I'm flying/doing!!!"

Oh well.
Mirima Thurander
#453 - 2012-10-28 00:36:58 UTC
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?



Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#454 - 2012-10-28 00:39:01 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
It's almost like you haven't seen the "IF YOU NERF HISEC WE'LL JUST QUIT" reaction even if I barely suggested increasing the manufacturing costs, you wouldn't be saying that. But hey, go ahead, start up a "nerf hisec income" thread and see how many hisec pubbies will come out of the woodwork with "we'll just quit".

In all honesty I would not mind a small handful of people who are well versed in all areas of space and put together a very detailed and extensive idea on a complete revamp of risk vs. income in all space.

A group who does not have a personal agenda. You the whole, "Nerf everything I'm flying/doing and buff everything I'm flying/doing!!!"

Oh well.

Good thing CCP are all about making hisec the next trammel area without reducing the income potential in hisec, while nerfing nullsec time and time again, so you may very well get your wish in the expansion after retribution, so we can see just how much of a wasteland nullsec will become when local disappears.

Just don't cry to me when I say "I told you so" afterwards.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#455 - 2012-10-28 00:39:45 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?



Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

Yeah, cause there's no way we'll ever game that and roll in such massive amounts of isk it'll make incursions look like level 1 missions.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#456 - 2012-10-28 00:41:09 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?

Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

It's almost as if you've no concept of just how bad the monetary inflation is in eve, yet wants to make it even worse. vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#457 - 2012-10-28 00:49:59 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?



Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

Yeah, cause there's no way we'll ever game that and roll in such massive amounts of isk it'll make incursions look like level 1 missions.

Then they'll nerf back the rats and we'll have the same rats and wrecked local.

~just as planned~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#458 - 2012-10-28 00:50:49 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
It's almost like you haven't seen the "IF YOU NERF HISEC WE'LL JUST QUIT" reaction even if I barely suggested increasing the manufacturing costs, you wouldn't be saying that. But hey, go ahead, start up a "nerf hisec income" thread and see how many hisec pubbies will come out of the woodwork with "we'll just quit".

In all honesty I would not mind a small handful of people who are well versed in all areas of space and put together a very detailed and extensive idea on a complete revamp of risk vs. income in all space.

A group who does not have a personal agenda. You the whole, "Nerf everything I'm flying/doing and buff everything I'm flying/doing!!!"

Oh well.

Good thing CCP are all about making hisec the next trammel area without reducing the income potential in hisec, while nerfing nullsec time and time again, so you may very well get your wish in the expansion after retribution, so we can see just how much of a wasteland nullsec will become when local disappears.

Just don't cry to me when I say "I told you so" afterwards.

No, I think that's what they want. A wasteland nullsec.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mirima Thurander
#459 - 2012-10-28 00:51:30 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?

Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

It's almost as if you've no concept of just how bad the monetary inflation is in eve, yet wants to make it even worse. vOv

It would.seam.from the way you two are.acting it would.only be fair if there no local u.would have to.spend so much time defending your space/dieing to should be fine.

So now your saying even with no local u could.still make a ton of isks?

Make up your mind.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#460 - 2012-10-28 00:54:16 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Let me get all this.information right.

We.can.remove your null local.if.we.make the.rats pay out 20mil isk per rat?

Ccp.null has.spoken make.rats pay out 20mil per kill and remove local.

It's almost as if you've no concept of just how bad the monetary inflation is in eve, yet wants to make it even worse. vOv

It would.seam.from the way you two are.acting it would.only be fair if there no local u.would have to.spend so much time defending your space/dieing to should be fine.

So now your saying even with no local u could.still make a ton of isks?

Make up your mind.

You are a moron. What do you think happens when you make rats pay out 20x more?

It's obvious you're either monumentally inane or a pretty damn bad troll who knows no subtlety.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?