EVE General Discussion

I didn't say they ban sales of mature games - it's just a self policed rating system that is taken seriously by the majority of the games publishers that operate there.

Anyway, regarding the "bad and you should feel bad" comment - that was just by way of example of what a non-constructive bad post is like. We wouldn't necessarily even do anything about someone who posted that, as long as they add something constructive too.



I agree one hundred percent wit the first two sentences; appearing too eager to moderate is something that will cause us to reject an applicant and will earn an existing moderator a nice and friendly coaching session, from yours truly.

If you can see any posts where you think we've been 'too eager' and where we've been 'looking for reasons' then please report it or petition it as discussed in the OP of the thread. If you want to report it, feel free to put 'FAO CCL Leads' at the start of your report and I can assure you that myself, ISD Eshtir or a member of CCP will investigate.

It might help you to understand that we don't hunt for things to moderate as a rule, but we are the first responders to anything that's reported and we find that troublesome threads get reported very quickly, so that perhaps is why it looks like we're being too eager ?

I don't understand this argument - any and all online interaction (which forums are) is explicitly not rated by the ESRB.

The "Teen" rating only applies to CCP-generated content (e.g. mission texts), it does not apply to any interaction between players or any player-generated content (all of which is unrated).

As such claiming that EVE would lose the ESRB "T" rating if CCP did not police player interaction well enough seems ... weird.

I very much doubt that ISDs (or me for that matter) are qualified to comment on what the ramifications of poorly policed forums would be - that falls into the area of expertise of CCP's legal and marketing teams.

You and everyone else have been asked to avoid 'specific' actions in this thread, you know what you need to do if you think something needs investigating.

Thanks.

Edit: By specific, "don't pick on goons thread locked crap" is pretty specific.

Really I seem have missed that thread. Was that in GD? How much less specific should I be?

Oh I get it.

Someone did something bad to a thread.

So we aren't able to discuss moderation here , not allowed to open new threads about it , sounds a bit one sided stuff. Two posts removed for no reason. Try not to remove this one please.

I'm done you've killed the forums! I come here(pay) for fun, not to be harassed.

What is everyone's opinion on moderators noting on a post if the user gets banned or warned because of it?

These forum's are CCP hf.'s, and they're free to demand that posters behave however CCP hf wishes. But it does you and CCP hf no good for you to argue positions that fail to hold up to fact checking. As Vera pointed out, the ESRB rating applies only to content created by CCP. Content created by the players is explicitly disclaimed by CCP hf (legalese for "that's not us!"), so the ESRB rating does not apply. That doesn't mean that other web presence regulations/ratings wouldn't be applicable though.

MDD

I agree. I think CCL might have fewer irritated players (read: "moderation candidates") if we had a way to hide threads, similar to how we can hide the posts of a specific player. Something like an "anti-subscribe".

MDD

The point of my post is that we're trying keep a uniform level of acceptable player interaction across both the game and the forums.

The forum rules are there for a reason, and as such people will be expected to follow them or run the risk of being moderated and potentially having their posting privileges removed either temporarily or permanently for repeated breaches of the rules.

In the end, there is very little difference between now and the forum moderation standard that was in place during the operation of ISD CRC during the early years of EVE. We've simply chosen to move back in that direction to tidy up the breaches of the forum rules that have been occurring during the period where there was no specific team responsible for moderating the forums.

Frankly, most of the stuff that goes on on these forums has made me laugh my ass off for the last 10 years or so, but in the same respect while we all love to laugh and joke, the line is always there and shouldn't be crossed.

There are rules, they will be followed, and they will be respected. Likewise, you will all learn to respect each other, and our ISD volunteers. Those who don't will sadly end up being on the bad end of a forum gag if they repeatedly choose to ignore the rules. Be it on their own heads.