EVE General Discussion

A velator. There's no reason to fly anything expensive through lowsec, since we can buy literally everything (or have everything imported) in deklein. It might just take a little while to get it there.

However, this doesn't detract from the fact that the systems weren't camped or in some cases not even inhabited at all (if they were, they were probably just inhabited by someone doing the FW farmville dance vOv).

Oh nosss another one of these threads, For the guy thate rode the short bus and fell out of a tree hitting every branch on way down, 0.0 is more secure because WE make our space safe, throgh intel channels, organized roams, scout alts, Bubbles,etc We do this not CCP. And the last time I checked people were still being burned with fire in sagain,tama,and rancer just to name a few. Go cry to your CEO or alliance leader if u guys are fail locking down your space. HTFU buttercup This is EVE

Incidentally all but the most organized pirate groups can be scattered to the wind with a small gang of 5-7 battlecruisers with logistics in tow. Go in with a few properly fit drakes to start getting the guns on you. Bring in some Hurricanes to neut out their energy dependent ships. Then the logi to assist the tank of your own fleet. Select your targets intelligently, i.e. start with the highest threat ships. The piddly stuff there is meant to be what you shoot while the more dangerous ships which are harder to kill keep on shooting. The fact that you cant get your carebear cousin friends to join you in doing this isn't the pirates fault. Its you and yours being unwilling to fight for what you want. Stop complaining about how "hard" this game is, or how unfair lowsec is. And start using your brain to find ways to change the game around you. Get your guys together. Make your own pirate corp, kill people and make it safe for your carebear alts to go about doing things. There are a million different ways to make low sec work. You just have to be a little more conniving than the average bear.

Fly True, Strike Sure, and Keep Up!

Citizen Vigilante

lmfao

You should check my sig for an idea I've come up with by collecting and filtering other ideas I've read, discussing it with Alliance mates, and knowing how I would like to see my own little pocket of Lowsec be buffed.

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This is such crap. Pirates don't hold sov over a piece of space, so giving them money is wasted ISK because they can't guarantee jack squat. Even if they honor the contract (doubtful), you're still completely vulnerable to other roaming gangs. And if you do get tackled by someone, just try bat-phoning your pirate friends. They'll laugh, tell you to HTFU, and leave you to die in a fire. They wouldn't be pirates if they had honor or integrity.

This is such a dumb idea that I'm surprised people still fall for it. It's like one of those "sell you a PLEX for 1 trit!" scams you see in Jita.
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LOL! I didn't say the pirates would protect them. I said they wouldn't shoot them. There is a distinct difference. I also said "relative" security mate. As far as being protected by them. That's something you would have to work out with that organization. You can call it a scam if you like, but in reality its not. I am however enjoying the tears and whining that is coming out of this thread. It has provided me with lots of entertainment. FYI ever heard of honor amongst thieves? There is some of that among pirate organizations in this game. To generalize it to such an extent as to say they have none. Simply proves your limited understanding of the dynamics of relations in eve.
Its not honor-less to perpetuate the economy by providing potential buyers for all you carebears out there. If it weren't for the people who live to blow up your ships we would all have so much the game would have nothing left to offer us. Without that risk, there is no reward. Without reward, there is no reason to play. Keep that in mind the next time your trying to sell that shiny little ship or module. Because the market would have far fewer people buying your products if it weren't for the dangers of piracy!

Fly True, Strike Sure, and Keep Up!

Citizen Vigilante

Life's dangerous, nobody's survived it yet.

As for "this is such crap" and "pirates don't hold sov", they may not hold sov to the point where their name is on some sovereignty map, but this doesn't preclude them from controlling space. There's more to controlling space than putting a name on a map, you know.

You bet.

I've seen three different pirate corps "claim" the same region of space. How many pirate groups "control" Rancer now? At least three that I can think of. You can delude yourself that you control a given system, but you don't. No one does. That's the problem. I have yet to see Pirate corps actively contest lowsec systems beyond a couple of high-value border areas.

Pirates "control" space to the extent that they'll camp a gate or a station, and that's it. Bring a superior fleet and they'll run rather than fight. Bring a weaker fleet and they'll blob you and then run when reinforcements arrive.

Pirates are the cockroaches of EVE.

Why is that a problem?

What'sa matta you, hey
Gotta no respect, whatta you think you do
Why you looka so sad?
It's-a not so bad, it's-a nice-a place
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