Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually, it's "wyrm" for dragons. We don't have that name on a ship, yet.

Will you be releasing the mineral requirements to build before release as well?

Why dont you make them customizable like the strategic cruisers with 3 choices instead of 4 for each subsystem?

If youre planning on making the drone aspect of the gallente destroyer more powerful, you could put in a shipbonus or a skill that allows for medium class drones

Could be something like:

Role bonus:
50% reduction in drone bandwidth need.


This would effectively eliminate the need for the ship skil bonus of: 10% dmg and hitpoints (you can keep it as well to give better focus on drones), Which would make room for the current role bonus to represent itself as a skill bonus.

The user would also be given an effective versatile defence in the areas of shield or tank support drones, for those areas that can get too tough to handle without some defence. Like PvE missions where rats spawn after an ammount of seconds.

The ship attributes might need to be changed in order to fit that, but hey! you're the testers :)

Love the idea of expanding the destroyer class since it's so small and the fact that they are not just more turret boats adds a good bit of flavor, they look nice. Keep the good work coming CCP.

I noticed that you don't have names posted for the new hulls and if you're still working on them I'm partial to Amarr so might I suggest it be called a Deacon? If this has already been suggested then I second the motion.

Why are we giving the caldari destroyer a +5% kinetic damage bonus when we are currently removing that bonus in favor of +5% rate of fire for all the other ships being rebalanced?

I don't like the bonuses of new destroyers.
First, 10% to both drone damage and hitpoints per level is too much for ships so small and might make them even beter than Assault Frigates (why Worm and Ishur don't have same bonuses then?). I would replace it with bonus to tracking, speed and optimal range.
Next thing is that bonuses are not following standard racial bonuses that we're all familiar with - for example, why not give 5% bonuses to shield and armour resistances per level to Caldari and Amarr destroyer, respectively?

I also see that the new Amarr destroyer is going to become a mini-Curse. This is also bad. I would save the neuting bonuses for a Blood Raider destroyer, if CCP plans to introduce it one day and turn the Amarr destroyer into a rocket boat, like Heretic/Vengeance/Malediction are.
Caldari also seems overpowered with 8 launchers slots that will have the damage of ten...I guess this is CCP's way to recompensate Caldari pilots for the missile nerf. I would generally remove damage/RoF bonuses from all destroyers, since a bunch of turret/launcher slots they have acts as a built-in damage bonus.
Gallente has a bonus to Hybrid Turret optimal range which is untypical for Gallente, but it beats more common faloff bonus so I don't mind it.
And Minmatar destroyer will have missile bonuses? Screw that - every Minnie pilot would prefer bonus to Small Projectile Turret faloff instead.

I'm still wondering why the damage specific bonuses.

I thought we were trying to get rid of damage specific on missile boats.

Any reasoning behind this?

Update!

Amarr:

• Cap recharge bonus moved into the hull itself - thus capacitor recharge rate reduced from 370 to 275s
• Role bonus changed to 25% MWD speed to drones

Caldari:

• Removed one high slot and launcher slot, gained one mid slot - thus layout now is 7 / 4 / 2, 7 launchers

Gallente:

• Drone bandwidth increased to 35m3
• Drone bay increased to 60m3
• Turret number increased from 4 to 5
• 5% hybrid turret damage bonus per level changed for 10% hybrid turret tracking bonus per level
• Role bonus changed from 50% hybrid turret optimal range to 25% MWD speed to drones

Minmatar hull unchanged.

To answer some questions that have been asked before:

Why having a fixed damage bonus on the Caldari and Minmatar hulls, didn't you want to move away from this philosophy?

Yes we definitely do, when it makes sense. For instance, we kept a kinetic damage bonus on the Condor, while the Kestrel has a generic one. In this particular case however, having general damage bonuses on these two hulls would bring them too close of each other.

Don't you think the Caldari hull is going to have an insane alpha with light missiles, or just too good in general?

The layout change will help mitigate that somewhat. If it still too much of an issue we can always revert the light missile damage change and increase the ROF on light and rapid light missile launchers instead.

Why is the Amarr hull better at drone management than the Gallente one?

That was a good point that should now be fixed. The drone bay will however stay larger on the Amarr hull as it is a trait currently encountered in Amarr versus Gallente drone ships.

Isn't a 25% MWD drone bonus break drones trying to catch static targets?

CCP Fozzie made me run some tests at gunpoint, 25% seems to be okay.

What's the point of the Catalyst next to the new Gallente hull?

We're planning some changes for it - keep an eye for them in the next days on this thread.

how is 35m3 helpful? mediums against frigs are a waste of time they wont track them why odd numbers doesn't make sense just improve the drone hp/dmg bonus instead do it across the board would be useful