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A "Ganker's" View on Mining "Buffs"
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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#181 - 2012-09-27 19:09:46 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
I don't suppose it has occurred to anybody that all the ganking in recent months, long forum blogs about miners and the willful destruction of their ships, and all that other stuff actually helped bring attention to the issue, and raised the average miners bile enough for them to bother coming here and posting how they felt.

That last bit is the important part btw.

Aside from that, I never read the OP, but I do have to say this.

Miners > Production and Manufacturing > Ships and modules > Pilots in Space


Way to be ambitious and at least read the TL;DR conveniently provided to you at the end of the OP!

You sir, are a credit to literate folk everywhere!

As for your statement about the obvious part of the production chain of Eve Online:

Pilots in Space > Pilots in Station > Trading > Miners

Miners are connected to more than just production. Your model is overly simplistic, begging the question of why did you bother to post anything at all?

I think the increase in miner presence on the forum is not due to any spontaneous growth of courgae, but rather due to the increased statistical likelihood of a miner posting on these forums which arises from an increase in the overall mining population. More miners = more posters.

But you really should have read the OP so you had something to contribute. Thanks.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Tarinara
Doomheim
#182 - 2012-09-27 19:54:45 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tarinara wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
So let me get this right. As a miner, you think it is better for say, trit prices to go from 6-7isk/unit to 3isk/unit?

Or how about the 1.70 or so wasn't it that it cratered to back around '08-'09 time frame?


This is good for miners how?

I wasn't inferring it was *good* for the miners, just pointing out how low it has gotten in the past. I was still mining at that time and felt that pain ( slightly ). IIRC CCP even had Dr. Enjo burning some midnight oil over that phase.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#183 - 2012-09-27 20:03:08 UTC
Tarinara wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Tarinara wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
So let me get this right. As a miner, you think it is better for say, trit prices to go from 6-7isk/unit to 3isk/unit?

Or how about the 1.70 or so wasn't it that it cratered to back around '08-'09 time frame?


This is good for miners how?

I wasn't inferring it was *good* for the miners, just pointing out how low it has gotten in the past. I was still mining at that time and felt that pain ( slightly ). IIRC CCP even had Dr. Enjo burning some midnight oil over that phase.

So you're basically admitting that when tritanium was at its lowest you were among those mining zealots contributing to its awful low price by heaping stock on the market.

Good job! Clearly you are the voice of happy miners everywhere!

This is not ironic.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Hypercake Mix
#184 - 2012-09-27 20:14:38 UTC
On the bright side, low-sec ores are looking pretty good now.
Tarinara
Doomheim
#185 - 2012-09-27 20:43:36 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
So you're basically admitting that when tritanium was at its lowest you were among those mining zealots contributing to its awful low price by heaping stock on the market.

Good job! Clearly you are the voice of happy miners everywhere!

This is not ironic.

HAHAHA! You assume quite a bit. You have heard about that word 'assume', haven't you? I haven't mined for my own reasons since around '09 ( I will admit mining for a corp one 'Toon was in because the corp needed it ). And whatever quantity of Trit/etc I might have had when the price was low got tossed in a hanger and sat for a while. In theory I may still have some of those minerals in the pile someplace. But: my time and effort was worth more than what the market was offering. Blink
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#186 - 2012-09-27 21:11:35 UTC
Tarinara wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
So you're basically admitting that when tritanium was at its lowest you were among those mining zealots contributing to its awful low price by heaping stock on the market.

Good job! Clearly you are the voice of happy miners everywhere!

This is not ironic.

HAHAHA! You assume quite a bit. You have heard about that word 'assume', haven't you? I haven't mined for my own reasons since around '09 ( I will admit mining for a corp one 'Toon was in because the corp needed it ). And whatever quantity of Trit/etc I might have had when the price was low got tossed in a hanger and sat for a while. In theory I may still have some of those minerals in the pile someplace. But: my time and effort was worth more than what the market was offering. Blink

I stand corrected. You are a true success story. Sell now, I guess. Sad

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
#187 - 2012-09-28 21:02:41 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Touval Lysander wrote:


I'm completely confused why non-miners and presumably non-industrialists are bothered about ore prices being too low.

Doesn't that actually make their gameplay easier?

Why would anyone ASK for ways to make stuff more expensive? It defies logic.


So let me get this right. As a miner, you think it is better for say, trit prices to go from 6-7isk/unit to 3isk/unit?

I used to mine quite happily when we couldn't get much more than 2 isk. Didn't bother me.

Why? A large chunk of miners don't sell the ore. They build stuff. All that is needed is for 1 or 2 of the ores to stay relatively high in price and the product sells at a good price.

And my point was that it makes YOUR gameplay easier, so why are YOU bitching about it.

MinerMan will do his own bitching when needed. They dont need your "charity"'.

"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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