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Nerfing Highsec manufacuring and the "End of EVE" as we know it

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#141 - 2012-09-09 00:36:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Lord Zim wrote:
So wait, next time I'm in a discussion with someone about hisec, I'll just link to your posts and say "that's how all hisec people are"?


Nullsec player's hisec alt != hisec player

Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
You're quoting a highsec player (James315) as a representative of nullsec players.


Lord James 315 isn't hisec player. He is killer of Bobby.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#142 - 2012-09-09 00:38:32 UTC
I was thinking of cranking up my indy accounts again. They all lapsed out this summer.
I thought that after the improvement in mining safety for high sec players that maybe CCP was recognizing the importance of this large base pf paying customers.

Guess I was wrong, and my indy accounts will stay dormant.

But hey, don't worry CCP, I am sure I am in the ever-so-tiny minority, and extremely few high sec players will pull the plug on their accounts, plus you will gain oh so many more accounts when manufacturing migrates to low/ null sec.

I am also waiting for the other shoe to drop when the the ex-goon lead dev follows through with his threats (about 4 months ago) about nerfing high sec T2 manufacturing / invention.

So yeah, CCP, listen to the CSM which has zero bias against high sec.
Completely accept that you will net GAIN subscriptions when you hammer high sec yet again.

I am sure it will all work out perfectly.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2012-09-09 00:41:47 UTC
Excellent, one less competitor for me.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#144 - 2012-09-09 00:47:31 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Excellent, one less competitor for me.

I guess you're benefited a little, in a harsh and cold EVE Online environment.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2012-09-09 00:51:19 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
You're quoting a highsec player (James315) as a representative of nullsec players.


Lord James 315 isn't hisec player. He is killer of Bobby.

No he bumps highsec miners and suicide ganks them, all activities that can only be done by players actively living and playing in highsec.
Virgin Slayer
Elder Race of Man
#146 - 2012-09-09 01:04:52 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
This won't impact my high sec operation.Cool


Mine either!

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2012-09-09 01:06:38 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Excellent, one less competitor for me.

I guess you're benefited a little, in a harsh and cold EVE Online environment.


It's only cold because it's in space


that's a liquid

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-09-09 01:06:49 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
No he bumps highsec miners and suicide ganks them, all activities that can only be done by players actively living and playing in highsec.


http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=561860
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#149 - 2012-09-09 01:56:16 UTC
That was five years ago, this is now. James315 is a highsec player, as evidenced by his writings about him doing highsec things.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#150 - 2012-09-09 02:12:21 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
That was five years ago, this is now. James315 is a highsec player, as evidenced by his writings about him doing highsec things.

Roll

PUH-LEASE.........

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#151 - 2012-09-09 02:17:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2012-09-09 02:19:53 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
That was five years ago, this is now. James315 is a highsec player, as evidenced by his writings about him doing highsec things.

Roll

PUH-LEASE.........

The only thing which is Roll PUH-LEASE about this whole thread is the people who think this'll actually be a problem for anyone.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#153 - 2012-09-09 02:22:11 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'


Id define them as one's that don't give a rats ass about null or low sec.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-09-09 02:26:26 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'


Id define them as one's that don't give a rats ass about null or low sec.

So, "hisec players" are players who has absolutely no clue about huge swathes of the game?

Sounds like the kind of player I want on the CSM, because they'll have good and balanced input on which direction to take the game. Roll

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#155 - 2012-09-09 02:27:01 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'

Id define them as one's that don't give a rats ass about null or low sec.

So if a "nullsec" player is thinking about the interactions between the highsec production and their own use of the items in nullsec, they're not a "real" nullsec player either huh.

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Pipa Porto
#156 - 2012-09-09 02:27:54 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Then you'll be happy to show us, with a quote and a link, were CCP Ytterbium (or anyone else, for that matter) said either of those things, right?


No need since I know attitude of nullseccers: I, Me and Myself! Hisec players should pay to their overlords!


Quote and Link that, then.

And again, you made a specific claim:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
It will be reduced to 50% because you nullseccers aren't happy with let's say 75%.


Why aren't you prepared with evidence to support it?

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#157 - 2012-09-09 02:28:53 UTC
in other words a 'true' highsec players is defined by mental myopia
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#158 - 2012-09-09 02:31:33 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
in other words a 'true' highsec players is defined by mental myopia


This is funnier because your avatar is blind! Lol

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Pipa Porto
#159 - 2012-09-09 02:33:52 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'


Id define them as one's that don't give a rats ass about null or low sec.


War Is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Power.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-09-09 02:36:47 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Jax Bederen wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
So how would you define a 'highsec player', if someone who plays in highsec doesn't necessarily qualify?
Is there some sort of badpost quality that makes a highseccer who he is?

Tippia doesn't leave his/her trade hub station but sides against 'traditional' highsec positions all the time. Issler runs a highsec mining corp but (I'm fairly certain) feels highsec is too safe. Do they not count as 'highsec players?'


Id define them as one's that don't give a rats ass about null or low sec.

So, "hisec players" are players who has absolutely no clue about huge swathes of the game?

Sounds like the kind of player I want on the CSM, because they'll have good and balanced input on which direction to take the game. Roll


hey remember when we had a pubsec CSM and they showed us how much they don't care about nullsec by talking to greyscale about things like jump bridges

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