EVE General Discussion

On the flip side, if you rob the bank, you're not going to be magically held at the bank until the cops arrive and blow up your car, nor will the cops have a 100% chance of succeeding in catching you and blowing you up.

If we are gonna be all stupid and discuss how eve should be like RL-mode then the cops wouldn't show up in 5 seconds?

Because I'm feeling particularly nice:
GCC means global criminal countdown, which is basically any action that gets you concorded, also allowing other players to attack you where they couldn't before. It's any act that prompts the popup screen of "Are you sure you want to do this? Concord will kill you!"

And whenever someone steals from your can, your entire corp can attack them right from the start, the can flipper is actually not free to attack you unless you (yourself) attack them back or take from his can. If your corpmates attack him he can only shoot back at those who have shot him, not the whole corp.

One way for you to take advantage of this would be to fit a warp scrambler on your mining barge, and whenever someone can flips you you let your corpmates know and have them get ready to warp to your belt, while the would-be can flipper waits for you to take his bait (you can do enticing things like pull your drones out, bump him, etc.). Just before your corpies land in the belt, warp scramble the guy. He'll be able to shoot you, but he'll probably be more concerned with your corpmates who should have brought more than enough firepower to kill him before he does you any serious harm.

If the cop could warp to the banks location in a moments notice...yeah, I think they could pull it off. You do understand analogy though right? The point is that the mechanics don't make any sense to anyone else but eve players...

the point is that you want absolutely no risk in hisec at all whatsoever

Mechanics don't have to make real world of fantasy sense for that matter, they need to do what they are designed to do. When we question mechanics we aren't questioning realism, lots about Eve is completetly unrealistic as is the case in every game. The question is, does the mechanic do what it should? Does it work for the intended purpose? and even if it does, is the intended purpose a valid and good thing for the game.

Where back full circle and Im still looking for an answer to the question , what validity does suicide ganking have in this game? What does it add and how do we benefit from it as a wider community, not just the very tiny part of the community that executes suicide ganks.

To me, if you can answer that question confidently with a valid point, we definitly want to hear from you. The "so the game is dangers" to me while valid a silly notion, the game is dangerous without it, it depends on where you go. The argument for me here is that why does high sec have to be dangerous? How does that actually make the game better? In particular when you consider that the reason people live in high sec is so that they can PvE in saftey, another words, these are players who want to participate in the game (from the PvE side), why should there be a mechanic to detract from that?

No one is coming on the forums and claiming that Null Sec should be safer, why than does High Sec have to be more dangerous? Can the two not exist at the same time?

I think until those questions are resolved and answered, every patch that CCP is making (which I agree with the author) is designed to make high sec safer, will ultimately result in a game where High Sec is perfectly safe. So now is probably the time to make the arguments for suicide ganking if there are any to make. Its why I started the post, I think now is the time to show the outrage because I agree with the author, this is a very purposful and slow progress to making High Sec a PvE 100% safe zone and because its happening over the course of many patches rather than one big one, unless arguments are made for suicide ganking and making high sec more dangerous now, the new safe high sec will eventually be a reality.

High security does usually entail...high security. It won't stop the possibility of any threats, but it is a fairly good deterrent.

The only people who would defend suicide ganking are those that wish to risk little for much gain. I'm pretty sure that goes against a much more important core principle of the game.

EVE isn't real life. Perhaps the main problem is that people are all too willing to compare a computer game to real life.

I was interested in seeing what you had to say until I saw "themittani.com" link. All curiosity disappeared rather quickly after that.

nobody ever said anything was gank-proof