Missions & Complexes

From: http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=regarding-afk-complex-farming-1

Edit: The original concerns/rage in this thread have been addressed by Sreegs.

The TL;DR of this is there were some creative individuals who were AFKing in complexes 23/7 and generating income whilst not at their computers for extended periods of time. CCP considers this to be an exploit, and will be addressing the problem.

AFKing 23/7 killing respawning rats: exploit
AFK missioning/anoming/freightering: not an exploit

Sreegs explanation here, concerns about mining, and freighters


The original post:

What exactly is the problem here CCP? A pilot has to /actively/ probe down a complex, the speed at which he or she wants to complete the process shouldn't be measured. You also seem to blatantly ignore the fact that other people can probe these down and complete them while you're AFK boating around.

Is there some mechanic where NPCs are respawning in complexes after a certain amount of time? If they are, I can understand where the problem is. Anything with respawning NPCs and AFKing is bad mmkay, and there's a simple solution: stop **** from respawning in complexes.

I do find it hilarious, though, that you want to go after complex runners. I'd like to see the numbers of how much isk is generated from plexing, but taking what I presume to be a fairly safe guess, I'd be astonished if it represents more than 1% of the total isk generated in EVE. I mean it's not like you just made it 1000% easier for other professions to do anything AFK.

I applaud your effort to remove any AFK actions from the game, but seriously, stop picking on fringe problems, and look at the real problems in EVE.

I can think of several examples.

Mainly involving complexes that are part of COSMOS (especially for caldari/amarr).

There's a few persons with Rattlesnakes/Ishtars who do exactly as Sreeg's said.

Pretty sure this has more to do with hisec statics that repeatedly respawn NPCs.

Classic CCP.

I left my last MMO when the company started dictating how players can and cannot play the god damn game they paid for.

oh no how will we ever go on without being allowed to do something that is basically botting without a macro

Then MAYBE the problem is CCP placing NPC battleships to kill in highsec.

I dont really enjoy reading that CCP starts deciding which way of killing NPCs is allowed and which one isnt.

>implying I play this way.

It's the action of telling players how to play I have a bigger issue with then what they actually acted against.

He isn't talking about missions with rooms or people going AFK.

He is directly speaking too a certain type of Cosmos Complex where players are warping their ship in with an AFK Tank dropping 5 Sentries then putting remote reps on them then leaving their computers downtime to downtime.

At least with Mining you have to empty stuff or warp back to the station. Missions you have to pick up a new mission or change rooms. This is 100% 24 hour AFK.

We really need to get some clarification on this from CCP. Perhaps this is some special case situation, but since I do not do complexes the differentiation isn't obvious to me. It just seems to me that sitting my Rattlesnake in a mission, letting the little sentries clean up a room, and going to the kitchen to get a bite to eat is now a banned activity as I am generating income without being at the game. And as has been pointed out, if you can tank the rats, then you can just find a large roid, point you laser at it, hit a button and do AFK mining and then starting a load of laundry is again generating income without being at the game.
While I doubt either of these activities are on the ban list, I'd really like to see a blue post saying so.