EVE General Discussion

Purely lack of interest right now.

Otherwise mostly because of "leet" players who can't face their own mistakes or losses. :p

Then feel free to do PvP in other games, where the e-sports model is readily available.

EvE's PvP runs on the e-War model: Cheaters Prosper.

Do you seriously need to preach and coat tail on half the posts of the other people?

EvE's ship PvP runs on the Sun Tzu model, which is opportunistic and sucks.
Luckily it's very easy to get solo PVP on the markets, there are no cynos in there nor falcon alts nor offgrid boosters nor grapes of RR boats.

I have no friends.

Unless you get lucky and find the "right" corp that fits with your aspirations, play timing and is willing to teach you then pvp becomes an expensive business that you need to finance in other ways. A lot of people spend their available time missioning. In order to pvp they pretty much have to add the pvp time on top of that. Factor in to the equation the waiting time mentioned above and for many pvp ceases to be an option they can afford the time for.

The barrier to pvp isn't in my view the "carebear personality", rather it is time, pure and simple.

Not nearly skilled enough to do it. Both in real life and on character.

I don't even have propulsion jamming. :P

So you don't have to spend many more hours working up the same amount of money?

What keeps me from PVPing?
The enemy docking up.

much has been said about time ... time to train, time to prepare/fit your ship, and time to find an honorable opponent while dodging all the muggers

much has been said about the cost of losing your ship/fit/implants

the bottom line in my opinion is that it comes down to fair competition vice unfair competition - nobody likes to be on the receiving end of a mugging by some bully that thinks might makes right (and at the individual and gang level, when it’s non-consensual, that's all it is - a mugging)

I believe many more players would engage in individual/gang PvP if the mechanics existed to ensure a fair and competitive contest conducted in some organized fashion. I'm specifically excluding corps/alliances because of the wardec and tournament systems.

While there dozens of ways to do this, they all involve three things: 1) consent to engage in the contest; 2) some way to determine your chances of survival before you consent for decline the engagement; and 3) some minimum form of organization to the competitions. I don't care if you have a system of challenge lists, or arenas, or continual tournaments, or whatever - just organize it, instantly pop anybody who is not part of the competition assisting a competitor (i.e. remote repper), show competitors fits prior to consent, and agree to take part in the competition

There are few things better than the feeling you get after winning a tough but fair fight - there are few things more upsetting than getting your teeth kicked in because your opponent didn't fight fair - we don't stand for anarchy and roaming gangs mugging random people in RL - why should we stand for it in eve pvp?

If I was a Klingon I might say something like 'there is no honor in defeating a weakling, and only cowards pick fights with weaklings ... honorable combat, and the joy derived from it, comes from combat between equals or defeating a superior enemy after making the decision that losing everything you have is worth the attempt'

There are tons of games that offer you the neutered stadium PvP you want. Go play them.

Or, try out for the AT next year.


Oh, and if you want to stop roaming gangs mugging people, organize your own police force. Nothing's stopping you.