EVE General Discussion

emote till you choke in imvu 2nd life

first they come with the barbie and then they come with the emoting thing .

mark my words ,next will be WIS will kill EvE

the same routine over and over again

And still people want WIS

.......... and a devblog ofcourse

No it's the wis now or else i am going to quit eve will die?

Of all the things to shoot in jita you chose the statue.

I don't mind that there's a major station revamp cutting in line. That part of EVE has been broken longer than Incarna. Ditto sov, for that matter.

What I really don't understand is the idea that "you want social? there's chat!" Yeah, I played all-text MU*s too, once. I went back to one a couple of years ago and it's totally dead, even though it has a large and richly described world, a well-elaborated combat system, far more robust chat than any MMO has, and (at one time) a relatively large player base. Astonishingly, people prefer graphics, even when the graphical rendering severely limits their options--which it almost always does. People like to see things and hear things; you can convey a lot more information a lot more quickly, for one thing. A lot of people like to be immersed, and the more immersion, the better.

If you'd rather be :cool: and distance yourself from the game as much as possible, knock yourself out. TeamSpeak and its eye-gouging, sanity-compromising excuse for an interface will still be around, and I'm sure that chat's not going anywhere. If it does go away, I'm sure Google chat will still be around, or AIM. You can stay in your pod and rely on 1970s technology as much as you'd like. You could probably even convince CCP to render the chat text in your choice of amber or green, in the old VT100 font.

As for the lore, apparently the technology in EVE never improves and nobody ever figured out how to make the cloning technology more robust. That stuff is fluff; it can be and will be rewritten whenever CCP wants to rewrite it.

Maybe as an alternative to the canned devblog, Team Avatar could do one that has a live demo of multiple avatars in the one environment, to show that it is possible.

Well, it's been a week now without so much as a whisper from CCP about WiS. It would
seem that the entire staff has been muzzled on the topic.

This silence leads me to believe there is some serious discusion going on as to how
to proceed from this point on. I fear they are going to cancel the project all together,
which imo is the better choice rather than strining people along a few more years with
vapo-ware promises. That's just not good for CCP's reputation.

So, how is canceling WiS going to play out?

If they are to cancel it, they will need to remove the CQ as it will be a constant reminder
of a failed project and people(especially new players) will constantly be asking what
purpose it serves, and why they don't release more content for it. Serioulsy, it's been
a year now with a door that wont open, and they say that may not happen for a few
more years? This can't be allowed to continue as is.

Now, with the CQ gone, the NeX store will now be 100% useless as opposed to the 95%
useless it is now without common areas. So, the NeX should be removed as well. That
then leaves the question of full body view. Remove it too, we don't need to have bodies
or even faces for that matter, we should just have ship avatars to present ourselfs. This
is after all a game about spaceships, and only spaceships I keep getting told.

Now that we have succesfully purged the failed project, what does EVE look like now?

It seems far from canceled to me. They're taking a completely different approach to WiS now than before Incarna. Prototyping methods of gameplay with the Unity engine seems like a much better idea than creating tons of art assets for a chat room.

We'll likely not see any WiS developments for at least a year and more than likely two. When they revisit WiS it's going to have to blow people away from the beginning. Hopefully CCP doesn't go public anytime soon.

This shows what WiS would look like with CCP's avatars and an actual person controlling them, in an actual station with other avatars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FYhyla9EA

On the PS3 as part of dust.

The avatar in a station part is about half way though. It is in something called the Event Horizon Lounge. At one point you can even see a planet out a window. Note that CCP is handling the scene complexity issue by having avatars that are far away look like hollow shells. They are just reducing the resolution as needed to keep reasonable performance.

(How powerful is the graphics processor in a PS3 compared to what is in a typical PC?)

Its not clear to me if that lounge is only accessible when you first set up an account or if its always accessible. And we got no idea if the merger of Eve and Dust will let us pod pilots in there as well.

From what? The dropping of Team Avatar's blog? That could also be read as:

"We do not want to put out a blog on wreck exploration with avatars when in just a few weeks Sisi will have avatars from eve and dust interacting. It will just get subscribers calling bait and switch, and we have had enough of that with avatar features already."