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See, you simply can't post without it being statements of personal preference presented as group fact.

Dude, chill out game face off. The discussion is over. Wardec change is dialed in, no point wasting any more breath on it.

Perhaps this has been mentioned before, but I'd like to reiterate on it.

The V3 Minmatar ships have lost their personality. No longer does the Vagabond have that unique look with the wingy bits at the sides, now it doesn't look different from a Stabber, just a darker Stabber at it. Same applies to the Claymore/Cyclone. The dark pattern doesn't sit well.

The Tempest Fleet issue is no longer easily recognizable. Out squared wingy bits are gone too. Now it is just another Tempest with a different paint job, and what's worse, the model wasn't even fixed. The exhaust still has the 2 plates at the side floating and not attached, and the tower to the right, on top of the right turrets, is also floating. The telephone poles are also nowhere to be found and the cockpit looks like a lighter green blob on top of the rest.

The regular Tempest, I can live with it, not fan, but not hating it. The Vargur looks kinda neat, and out of the Tempest hulls, it's the best. The Fleet Tempest is now unimaginative. The Tribal Tempest however, our unique and best ship, just looks terrible - sorry, but it does.

The lighter tone on the staple Minmatar ship, the Hurricane, looks bad all around as well. The Cyclone pattern is nice, but the Hurricane's looks are not up to par - and the new Tornado, why? It looked well already.

On that note, uniformed, perfectly painted, all-equal ships are not Minmatar-looking. They feel more Gallentean/Amarrian rather than Minmatar. I fly mostly Minmatar ships, and I've always loved the unique look, the missmatched colours, the blocky and improvised feel they have, those random bits attached to the hull, those solar panels that protrude sometimes, or how well and recognisable they are. It just feels like the newer versions have taken that away. And the lighter colours feel out of place on the ships.

Sorry to be this negative, but it just doesn't feel right/

ya do think the minmatar t1 ships need a more grungy look to there texture... they made it look like there painted instead of rusty

The question I have is why does the balance of power need to be in favor of the aggressor? You seem to want one side to be stronger but restricting the defender's ability to add allies means the person who's declaring war has a significant advantage.


I'll skip the disagreement in philosophy of running Eve because we both know we don't see eye to eye on what's best for the game. However lets talk about the crux of the matter; providing employment for mercenaries.

The statement was made that having unlimited free allies takes away from Merc employment and I can agree that people with friends won't have to use Mercs. I do disagree with having to pay Concord a fee to bring in an Ally. What is the point of playing an MMO if you are penalized for having friends? That is what this change seems to imply, groups of allied friends can't support each other without having to pay for the privilege of being friends.

The problem therefore is how to keep Mercs employed while at the same time allowing friends to help each other out. There are several options to consider.

1. Differentiate between Mercs and allys. Allow up to 10 allies to join for free and afterwards charge a fee. Still allows the defender to get some help but cuts down on mobs of unknown conscripts.

2. Do not have a set time limit for Ally participation, instead let the players decide how long they want to be part of the fight. It's supposed to be a sandbox so why not let the people agreeing to help out decide if they want to be involved for a week, two weeks, or longer. Options are better then having to conform to another person's standard.

3. Instead of vague goals like fight against someone for X amount of time make Mercs actually have to generate results to get paid. A Merc gets hired to kill 20 of the opposition and they don't get full payment until they've scored 20 kills. Maybe you hire them to kill a POS to get paid. The groups that get results will be known and more likely to be hired. Use a 50% pay up front, 50% upon completion to give Mercs some form of income but to also allow for times when the targets hole up or call in even more reinforcements.

4. Create a hiring board in game. Mercs can post what they are capable of doing, time frames they are available, and areas they are willing to operate in. Also allows job postings to be listed letting Merc groups know what work is out there. No war ded is required to review or hire from this page.

5. Allow anonymous hiring of Mercenaries. The Mercs can be the aggressor in a war creating another level of meta game to exist.

6. Have a list of top rated Merc corps on the hiring board.



The above changes would allow small alliances to still have allies without abusing the privilege. Mercs would have more tools to ply their trade, and could be used to hit specific targets when needed.


I think those changes would make wars more competitive for both parties while still allowing small groups the option of seeking help from friends. Mercs would have a role and be able to participate in their chosen profession.


P.S.- I applaud your concern to make sure different playstyles have the support needed to be a functional role in the game. How about taking a look at mining barges and giving them some additional tank options to make killing them require and equal amount of risk? A T2 mining barge shouldn't be prey to a T1 destroyer. Considering the costs involved a T2 barge should require something like a BS to take it out. A T1 barge should be looking at a BC level ship before worrying. Current game mechanics make it almost impossible to protect a mining vessel, even when a tank is used instead of mining modules. Having modules in game implies you want people to use them but having such a fragile vessel to begin with means the mining modules have to be ignored in order to fit a tank that probably want save you in the end anyway. I realize Eve isn't supposed to be fair, but why not put the requirement on the aggressor to work for a kill instead of making mining have no role in high sec. Sort of like Mercs wanting to play the game they way the enjoy too.

No, that is what YOU want it to be about. CCP and the CSM have stated they do not want that to be the aim, you have. The changes are to stop the current problems NOT fix the ones you are talking about. This has been explained to you over and over and you willfully ignore these posts.

It's now 25 pages of you using whatever ammunition you can imagine/create to try to push your agenda and has absolutely nothing to do with the wardec system.

It resolves the issue which only exists in your head. Other things that fix the issue: you can stop thinking about it.

You can very well say that 1.1 isn't the perfect solution, but that doesn't mean that 1.0 should stay.

Please, either try harder with the misinformation, or please, just give up Jade.

There are people much better at making stuff up and blowing things out of all proportion than you are, and you're just looking like an amateur.

The new system ensures that the people who ally you in a war dec are your actual friends who are joining because they are there to help you. The current dog pile mechanic is just being used as a way for corps whose entire business is wardeccing to not have to pay for their wardecs. The person who is accepting these allies can do so with zero cost or fear of repercussions. What other things can you do in Eve that have absolutely no risk or cost (hell even ship spinning costs time)?

It's been said over and over and over again, but I will say it again:

The 1.1 change needs to go through because in it's current state the merc situation is more broken than it has ever been before.

Yes, we need a new solution, or rather a solution at all, but not bandaging an obviously gaping wound is complete insanity.
It's not just Jade in this, it's everyone.

That's not a proposal, suggestion, recommendation, alternative, or option toward the solution. That's a statement of knowledge that has already been relayed.