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OK I'm getting a little used to it, pretty much up to "tolerate". My 2 main points are:

1. Windows needs to remember where they were and how big etc - I think you are working on this.

2. I loot all quite a bit, as I am sure do many others. The new system makes this difficult so to simplify it could you:

a. Add a button (near the align to/warp to etc buttons) that lets me do this without opening.
b. Add the option to R-click menu for overview item that lets me do this without opening.
c. Add the option to R click menu for a locked target that lets me do this without opening.

Any of these would be good, all 3 would be great!

Thanks.

I cant see any mention fixing windows in station so they remain were i left them when i undocked... I still need to shift + click 400 times in day.. To help people with this bug u guys need to fix eve so that when u open ur item bay from inventory it is still there when u redock later...

CCP Soundwave,

What's really interesting is that even many posters who claim they "could maybe" like the new UI, suggest that the corp hangar button be reinstated and open in a new window, that the station hangar and ship hangar buttons be draggable to the neocom (and open in a new window,) and that wrecks/cans also open in new windows. A position which, if you think about it, is also advocating a return to the previous interface's functionality. If CCP made those changes, which I'm all for, the interface would no longer be "unified." It becomes a multi-windowed system again, which is the only conceivable solution for a great many industrialists and traders. As I've written before, and as remains my position, the one-windowed system is flawed by design and it "is" the problem. Functionality and efficiency aside, loading everything into one window is even the source of the lag.

You can "tweak" the engine of a car with no wheels all day long....but you aren't going to get very far.

My suggestions:

1.) Merge the new UI and the Assets tab - since that's what it is. It's an unified, one-windowed, all-assets interface and at the moment, we have two assets managers. At least then the work wasn't wasted. That way, if players "want" to scroll through a gazillion items by location, they still can, and they'll even have new isk estimates and m3 values to boot.

2.) For the love of nachos, restore one click, multi-windowed functionality. End this one-windowed nightmare asap. You tried it and it has not been received well. That's unfortunate. (It's almost like there should be some testing process to alert you in advance or something.) The one-windowed system was doomed from day one. It should have never made it to Tranquility imo. We've been working with multiple windows since forever and these windows were usually created by single-clicking on static buttons. It may not have been perfect but it was quick, convenient and simple. This scrolling/right clicking/ open in new window/ resizing ad nauseum process just can't be promoted as a means to access anyone's things "more efficiently." I'm just shocked that anyone at CCP would even purport that this is "more efficient."

The station hangar and ship hangar buttons on the neocom really need to be restored, the corp hangar with its tabs needs to be restored, and wrecks, cans, and pos structures need to open in their own windows and/or close once looted. The bottom line is that until this happens, grief is deserved because we will still be fighting for the restoration of lost functionality.

3.) User-defined windows need to retain their size and position after undocking/jumping.

4.) And surely the least of my concerns, but why can't I "look at" my drones when in combat any longer? All I see now is a green square with a white cross. No drone.

If you guys can implement these changes within the new UI framework, then great. But if its going to take months or can't/won't be done at all, at least give us that information so that the people who absolutely won't adapt can make informed decisions. And if it's the former, then roll us back instead of forcing us to live with this debacle for months. I'm worried, as someone who has a deep appreciation for EVE, and for whom this expansion has depressed my desire to play my favorite game, how that sentiment must be translating throughout the rest of the playerbase. I can't even enjoy any of the other features added in the Inferno expansion because the UI is so central to all activities, it makes everything less-enjoyable.

Thanks for reading and for being present in the forums.

Yonis Kador

MMMORPG.COM :

""CCP does not listen to their players (customers) at all...!?!?!?!

The UNIFIED INVENTORY is the worst idea I have seen in all the upgrades/patches since I started playing the game many years ago. Why would CCP fix a system that worked well and had no problems? And best of all, it failed on SISI and the players all let CCP know about it and they still forced it on us anyway.

I am seeing between 95% to 99% of comments in the forums asking for a return to the old true INVETORY SYSTEM with persistem windows. In my own personal experience the game is now unplayable, I can not manage my POS, or actually do Ratting or Mining in 0.0 with out considerable time and effort. Tasks that used to take only a few key clicks now take me an hour to perform. Then once I leave the station or the POS and return I have to do it all over again, what joy!!!

When the game ceases to be fun and is now a frustrating and extremely time consuming, I no longer desire to spend time in it..."
"

oh my god, now THAT is a UI.

seriously, even though i like the direction of the new UI. Come on you idoits, windows 3.1 UI is not better than windows 7.

However this piece of garbage should of never been released live without 1st working. I mean, come on guys, you can allready make different UIs optional, then when it's finished, release it for real. When the old functionality and the new are all available.



edit:wait what? the tree can be opened inside every single items window? by pressing the >> button? THEN WHY don't windows open like they used to? please make it so we have to hold SHIFT to open a window in the SAME WINDOW.

Clicking buttons to open new windows should work just like before. THEN, we click the >> button, we ge the tree view to move items quickly, once we are done, we can close the tree by pressing << button.

Why can't you do this CCP? it wouldn't even require much change! it wuld be the old UI, with the tree as optional. the tree would only show up by defalt in station in the main items window. By MY CARGO DOESN'T NEED TREE VIEW.

Here is some recent history that Blue and I discussed while testing on SiSi.

Funny thing is that i just today tought that this inventory looks like it would be desinged for playstation controller...

Once a time the circus is in the town called something. In Something is was a good town, but later in the same year the town burn down. Something is now nothing. Nothing has to seek out for a new place and didn't find it. Nothing seek futher and futher.
to nothing discovered hole in the ground. So Nothing saw the hole in the ground and thought this is it. So nothing became once a again Something.

So this riddle has an issue


So everybody seeks to find something but always ends up with nothing.

I was making a general point. That 95% was so stupid high it can't be true.

But yes 95% of players don't like it, but please don't try to push out the new UI. It just needs to be fixed. Removed or made optional now, fixed later. Like the Neo neocom before it. When it couldn't go vertical, they didn't release it. Then when it was ready, they did.

if you look through a simple sample te 1st 5 pages. Lots of people like the new UI. It's just, shouldn't, be in game untill it works