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AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#501 - 2012-05-24 20:29:06 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Change scares old folks I guess.



Hey now! Smile

The simple fact is that if we had this new system right off the bat, and CCP tried to change it to the old system, people would be screaming about being forced to open separate windows to do anything.


In that case, it would be right to call that an 'Update' and I'd be playing atm...let's see;
-less lag because loading of useless isk nfo would be gone
-more room on HUD now due to lack of 'tree'
-Faster and more efficient looting/mining/POS

Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#502 - 2012-05-24 20:29:40 UTC
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Adalun Dey wrote:
Fabulousli Obvious wrote:
THIS ^^ is a promotional advertisement.

How do you respond after ACTUAL usage ?

I AM using it right now. This isn't anything CCP invented either, if this was a bad file management system, it wouldn't have been used in every single iteration of Windows since 3.11. In EVE It requires some getting used to after using the old system for so long, but I suspect the learning curve to be rather low.

I do agree though that CCP should have kept the option to use the old system as well though. We still have DOS in Windows too after all.


Not all of us like playing 'Windows OS'. It's an OS, not a game.

And the reason there is DOS, and always will be DOS, Is cause 'Windows' is a simple interface for ur simple mind. One simple line of assembly code will prevent ur 'Windows' from loading, and u'll be stuck at a black screen staring at C:\_ , thinkin' to urself, "wtf is this?"


Wait, so your argument is that DOS is better to use than Windows... which means a system nearly identical to the OS we are all intimately familiar with is therefore far worse to use?

REALLY?!?



My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS.
I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers....


I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#503 - 2012-05-24 20:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
AkaiDruiD II wrote:


Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs?


better question;

your "e" key obviously works, why abbreviate years lol

why
you
years.

Seriously.

YOU look less stupid when YOU type out all the words instead of the way YOU do it.
Unless YOU want to look less, then more power to YOU

Ranger 1 wrote:


I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


lol... internet savvy Ahmish

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#504 - 2012-05-24 20:33:48 UTC
Basically Acai berry Druid is an old fogey and should get with the times, Gramps.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#505 - 2012-05-24 20:34:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Adalun Dey
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS.
I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers....

Getting an overview of what's on your harddrive was very impractical in DOS. That's why Norton Commander was such a useful program. And guess what that looked like, right, Windows Explorer.

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#506 - 2012-05-24 20:35:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LoneLynx
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


agreed but I think the fundamental issue is you are arguing with someone who cant be bothered even to spell out the words he uses TO argue with.
Shows a lack of intelligence


My fav troll is back ;) \o/ sry if my abbrev r hard for u to understand. Thank GOD u have 'Windows' ;P
*snip* Images are not allowed here - ISD LoneLynx
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#507 - 2012-05-24 20:38:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Change scares old folks I guess.



Hey now! Smile

The simple fact is that if we had this new system right off the bat, and CCP tried to change it to the old system, people would be screaming about being forced to open separate windows to do anything.


In that case, it would be right to call that an 'Update' and I'd be playing atm...let's see;
-less lag because loading of useless isk nfo would be gone
-more room on HUD now due to lack of 'tree'
-Faster and more efficient looting/mining/POS

Y do u think the old system has been used all these yrs?


Because that is all we had. Roll

- Lag issues affect some with large inventories and not others. It is unlikely that the ISK value is the source of the lag issues that some are experiencing. You are assuming things you have no real information on, stop pretending that you do.

- The "Tree" takes up far less space than a multitude of now useless windows. Moving inventory requires 1/2 inch of dragging as opposed to dragging all the way across your screen.

- Looting is just as fast as it always was unless you were in the habit of opening all of your windows ahead of time and clicking loot all in rapid succession (same number of clicks, by the way), and this is already being addressed as the Dev Bog pointed out.

How many times do people need to explain these things before it begins to sink in, seriously.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#508 - 2012-05-24 20:39:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


agreed but I think the fundamental issue is you are arguing with someone who cant be bothered even to spell out the words he uses TO argue with.
Shows a lack of intelligence


My fav troll is back ;) \o/ sry if my abbrev r hard for u to understand. Thank GOD u have 'Windows' ;P
╭∩╮(◣_◢)╭∩╮


Ah good, show that IQ lol

I mean as long as you dont care you look like an idiot, its all good then I guess.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#509 - 2012-05-24 20:39:44 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)
Jonuts
The Arrow Project
#510 - 2012-05-24 20:40:55 UTC
Well, if you want to go along with this argument about it being like windows, let me shoot that turkey down for you real quick.

It's like windows, if you removed every shortcut I have, prevented the creation of new shortcuts, removed the desk top, and left me having to go dig through the menu system EVERY TIME I want to get to something. So basically, it's like windows with any and all semblance of user-friendliness removed. And I still want to see the person responsible for implementing this beaten with a lead pipe.
AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#511 - 2012-05-24 20:41:31 UTC
Adalun Dey wrote:
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
My argument is if there was no DOS, there would be no 'Windows'. And if there were no 'Windows' there would STILL be DOS.
I've used pc's b4 there were 'windows'. 'Windows' is better in the sense that for ur simple minds, little pretty pictures are easier for u to comprehend ;) But with one line of assembly code written in a DOS environment, all ur pretty little pictures will burn. Also assembly coding or any other coding is very tedious in a DOS environment, so in that case, a 'windows' type environment is preferred. But in the end...it comes down to DOS, and on/off registers....

Getting an overview of what's on your harddrive was very impractical in DOS. That's why Norton Commander was such a useful program. And guess what that looked like, right, Windows Explorer.


EXACTLY!!! so sum1 like u could use it TOO ;) lmao
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#512 - 2012-05-24 20:42:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)


thats what bayonettes are for and more guns lol

the truck is full of em Ahmish

an that porche, its solar lol

might as well pretend since you are

love your argument tho; yes, technology is the devil, u should take your computer an throw it out the window then cause its evil too

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#513 - 2012-05-24 20:42:25 UTC
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)


This settles it, Acai Berry Druid is the world biggest nerd. Tell us more about your asian kickboxing girlfriend.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#514 - 2012-05-24 20:42:59 UTC
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)


I think that pretty much ends any confusion about whether you are trolling or not.

Next.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#515 - 2012-05-24 20:44:56 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)


I think that pretty much ends any confusion about whether you are trolling or not.

Next.


Agreed. It explains the typing style.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Jonuts
The Arrow Project
#516 - 2012-05-24 20:46:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonuts
Zhihatsu wrote:
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
I think you'll find that many EVE players are familiar with DOS, so you can dismount the high horse.

Older and clunkier does not mean better, most of us have more important things to concern ourselves with. By your logic we should ditch cars because a horse and wagon is clearly better.

Well, feel free to continue shoveling ****. The rest of us have better things to do.


Let's save this convo for after the Apocalypse, when ur porshe is outta gas and ur gun is out of bullets. I will be on the horse carrying the 2 samurai swords ;)


This settles it, Acai Berry Druid is the world biggest nerd. Tell us more about your asian kickboxing girlfriend.



Those exist? I've tried getting one, but you know how hard it is to find a woman into martial arts who isn't Married, 12, or there because her boyfriend brought her? I gave up on that pipe dream a while ago :(


Also, if you want to try something with your horse and 2 samurai swords, I'll just have to grabbed a large stick/metal rod/whatever I can find, and spear your horse. Then laugh after you fly off the horse and break a few bones. Barring that, let me go grab a composite bow and punch a hole through your torso. A single horseman isn't very dangerous if you know how to fight one. Not to mention that in an apocolypse situation, your horse probably died of hunger, or was slaughtered for food in the first place, leaving just two "samurai swords". I wonder how long you'll wander with two swords before someone shoots and loots you...
AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#517 - 2012-05-24 20:47:02 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

better question;

your "e" key obviously works, why abbreviate years lol

why
you
years.

Seriously.

YOU look less stupid when YOU type out all the words instead of the way YOU do it.
Unless YOU want to look less, then more power to YOU


Would a pic be better for u? Do u want a pic?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#518 - 2012-05-24 20:48:05 UTC
Jonuts wrote:
Well, if you want to go along with this argument about it being like windows, let me shoot that turkey down for you real quick.

It's like windows, if you removed every shortcut I have, prevented the creation of new shortcuts, removed the desk top, and left me having to go dig through the menu system EVERY TIME I want to get to something. So basically, it's like windows with any and all semblance of user-friendliness removed. And I still want to see the person responsible for implementing this beaten with a lead pipe.


All of your "short cuts" are conveniently grouped in the menu that we call the "tree". Work is currently underway to make this easier to access and organize, a "favorites" menu if you prefer.

Relax.

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AkaiDruiD II
The Ghost of Creuss
#519 - 2012-05-24 20:49:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LoneLynx
Apparently every1 from Troll Corp is on.... so to keep this simple and for all of u to understand....

*snip* pictures not allowed here - ISD LoneLynx*
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#520 - 2012-05-24 20:49:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
AkaiDruiD II wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

better question;

your "e" key obviously works, why abbreviate years lol

why
you
years.

Seriously.

YOU look less stupid when YOU type out all the words instead of the way YOU do it.
Unless YOU want to look less, then more power to YOU


Would a pic be better for u? Do u want a pic?


look Ranger, he's not even hiding it anymore lol
Funny when they prove you right eh?
Oh by the way, your little pic is against the forums rules. Have fun with that ban unless you edit it

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.