Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Post Fixed. Why should nuetrals have access to any of it? They did nothing to secure the system? Only thing I can think of is that they may help defend the system if they reap the benefits (?).

Maybe FW players could rent out upgraded space? Would it be worth it?

So low sec industry having an advantage over high sec industry is a bad thing? If the benefits are good enough, then low sec might not be 'dead' anymore

I meant would it be worth it for a FW corp to spend 150k LP initially, and then probably 10-50k lp / day to keep the system upgraded so that neutrals can farm? Would the nuetrals be willing to pay 10-50 million isk/ day (converting LP to isk at 1000 isk/LP) to rend a low sec system? Probably not.

If improving low sec is the goal, then why provide these improvements only to FW space?

I think the bonus to science and manufacturing time is a good idea, maybe give these bonuses to people who spend LP on them. I like the added slots idea, but I don't think that you're adding enough, maybe +5 per level would be good. Or you can have extra slots (with bonuses) for members of the faction only. Like a fast pass. Sadly, I'm staying in CAS with this character so I'm not going to see use of that feature.

Another option would be tech 2 BPCs have a reduced time and mat waste in them or you could use LP and a lot of ISK to turn a T2 BPC into a T2 BPO. Maybe 100,000 LPs and 100 million isk for things like ammo and drones to 1 million LPs and a billion or five isk for a ship BPO. IMO I'd really like to see research upgraded, but this thread isn't the place for it.

You could also offer skill point rewards for LP and allow players or alt chars to participate to speed up their training.

Battleground systems could have named NPCs and NPC groups for both sides and they could meet and slug it out. These NPCs wouldn't give ISK but they could get LP for FW members and neutrals who want to access the LP store.

Another option is a home-field advantage: donate enough LP and all members of your faction in that system get small boosts to things like damage dealed, cap recharge, and resists and the other side gets small penalties.

I'd like to see assist the cause quests for non-FW members. That way you could participate to a limited degree for reduced or no faction losses. Things like: attack NPC pirates so the militia doesn't have to, or donate a ship, or go scout/probe an enemy system under the guise of a trade mission. You could also have donate ISK for LP. Ideally all NPC security missions involving faction loss would be moved to FW, but that's for another discussion.

First let me say that the upgrades and the gain and loss of lp that occurs every time an offensive plex is run is what I consider the best part of this expansion. Ideally it should lead to both factions having a sense of urgency to stop an enemy from plexing.

However I do not think these upgrades are gonna cut it. I am not sure who would invest this sort of lp for these upgrades in the vast majority of systems.

I think the key as to whether people will work toward these upgrades will be how the 16x multiplier works. How much do these levels of upgrades play into that?

If the losing side can knock down the other sides multiplier by taking lp from the upgrades and thereby raise their own multiplier fairly quickly then I think we will see allot of fights over plexes. However if keeping the systems upgraded is just some vague and minor "factor" in that then I don't think we will get that sense of urgency.

In other words, for the 16x multiplier, the level of upgrades of the systems you do should be relatively very important versus just the raw number of systems you have nonupgraded "sov" in.

I think there should be different bars to donate isk to.

* The current one provides the defensive buffer, so leave that. All deducted LP's from plexing gets taken from it.

* Another bar for the probability of professional sites in that system similar to the null sec upgrade, but each step in the ladder applies to a different type of site (grav,mag,ladar, radar), say the first four rungs 2X probability, the last four 5X probability for each. The only time LP is taken away is when sov changes, but the amount of LP to get better upgrades is steep.

* An additional bar, more of a button, for cyno jamming. This should be used for protection during operations, not a 24/7 thing. For instance, donate 100,000K LP and you can online a cyno jammer in the system for an hour. That could be a good enough reason to take/hold a stationless system if you plan on doing POS removal.

bring on the cyno jammers. moar fights.

This I think is a good idea and cynojammers as well but needs careful balancing. Could it be made to still allow jump freighters to lock on but not combat capitals?

Insurance - not cheaper insurance as people would just buy from the one system but increased pay-outs based on system level.

System Safety (Lawlessness) - there has been an assumption that upgrades boost a system from the current level, what if systems that are not upgraded are not as good/safe as they are now, side effects of the warzone. No upgrades - Gate Guns do less damage or take longer to activate, could also link in Navy Faction NPC strength/E-war ability in plexes. Perhaps also increase difficulty and therefore bounties of local pirate rats at lower levels, this kind of connects in if neutrals do not end up getting benefits when the system is upgraded, may give reasons for some neutrals to try to keep systems less upgraded/interfere with the militia although this is tricky if they have no method of bringing the LP in the hub down.

Devs seem a bit quiet, will there be any last changes or is it all going out as it is on the test server?

I would still like a better way to track LP spend in hubs and LP received?

Perhaps one of the upgrades could be a notification system that lets us know if the enemy is attacking plexes in our control that way we could protect the lp we invest from ninja plexers.