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You Fail horribly at EVE.

Leave now and turn in your pod.

So by that measure I should only be able to kill a titan with another titan, or a blackops ship should only be killable by another blackops or some other ship which for some reason is valued at roughly the same price value.

This is wrong on oh so many levels, and you should be ashamed for suggesting this.

I dont want to start a trend, and I dont want to say too much. But there is a very viable way of stopping suicide gankers... Its not been there long.

Use your head.

Here is a prime example of proportionality. Saying a ship that can destroy a 250M ISK ship should cost close to 250M ISK is ****tarded as in real life a 750 dollar rocket propelled grenade launcher can take down a multi-million dollar airplane or helicopter.

Just remember, it is never too late to give me your stuff and biomass.

So, in effect, a tengu fleet should be completely invulnerable to other subcaps, right?

And a cap fleet should only ever die to a supercap fleet?

And supercaps should only die to other, bigger supercap fleets?

And hell, rifters shouldn't even be able to kill stealth bombers?


Do you even play this game?

I don't have a lot of ISK, but what I do have, I've earned every penny. As far as being slanted away from new subs, it's always been that way. Even when I started, new players were targeted because older players were smart enough to not fall for stupid shenanigans. We all started blissfully ignorant of what EVE is. You have to either accept it and get smart and learn how to keep yourself alive, or quit. Those are your options. There is no, "make the game easier" way out.

One thing I see all the time is new players banding together in corps. You're never going to learn anything that way. You're just compounding your ignorance. Join an EXPERIENCED corp that will actually teach you something. EVE University or Agony Unleashed are another way to go if you want to learn how to stay alive.

Another thing I learned a long time ago: 0.0 is WAY safer than empire. If you're a miner, join a 0.0 alliance and go mine ABC ores deep in your alliance space. You'll rarely have to worry about getting jumped because the intel channels tell you when there's a hostile coming your way LONG before he's in your system. Even if he does manage to get to your system unnoticed, he still has to scan down the grav site, giving you plenty of time to get to safety. I only died once in a mining ship on my indy alt and that was because some jack-hole gave me the wrong intel channel when I first moved out there and I was dumb enough to mine in a belt.

This thread is just a bunch of people complaining that they want EVE to be 'easier' so they don't have to put in the time and effort to learn it. CCP has already made being a new player easier by leaps and bounds in the last year and a half, so quit 'cher bitchin' and grow a pair.

... except ...

CCP has made this game tons easier than it used to be. Know what that tells me? They want the subs.
They need the new players to stay, so they have been changing the rules over and over (and over) to keep them.

If players can't come up with good ideas to retain new players in face of gankers and greifers running amok, then CCP will hardcode changes. They have done it before, and will do it again if things don't improve.

To help out, I still have 3 Thrashers on the market that need good homes to help create more emo-bear-rage.

Obviously you've never heard of an insta-lock before. You're locked and alpha'd before you even hit warp.

I've already demonstrated this to several people in ice and ore belts. An exhumer isn't going to get to warp before I can scram and kill it with hot mods.

Pro-tip: You hit warp as soon as something "out of the ordinary" loads on your grid. So long as you are "actively aligned" nothing with catch you (and yes, there is effort involved in being "actively aligned").