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Really, just stop whining and just learn how. Or join a corp. there is no pig farming or boar hunting in this game. If you planned to mindlessly farm, there are other more suited mmos out there for you.

I earned my billions with the blood sweat and tears of lost ships, all by myself with no corp. have I been ganked? Yes. Lost hundreds of millions. But looking back it was the best thing that happened to me and it taught me valuable lessons early on in my career.

Here is a concept that may be foreign to you if coming to eve from main stream hack and slash mmos, you will lose your ship. Everyone. You will learn to balance risk vs rewards. Operating expenses vs profit.
If you don't, you'll leave the game eventually but not before you have filled the wallets of those who have learned to work the system here, with your shattered remains of ships.

The above of course is a 2 month old nooblet who has no idea how this game works.

Is that 30% of the cost of ganking a properly fitted, tanked ship flown by an active pilot, or 30% of a ship tanked only with an asteroid scanner, cargo rigs and MLUs?

If the former, we're already good. If the latter, then, well we have a problem

(The problem is that you're ridiculous)

I can see it now, the popup coming with "I'm sorry, Dave. I can't let you do that, Dave. You're not expensive enough, Dave."

Ha! Its oh so simple for all the Rich Btch (IRL) Players, with no life and their multi accounts to sit and say this is what you need to do to get along. But some of us don't just have money to throw away. And yes we can join a corp and team up, we do, but that only covers maybe 75% of game play at most. But there will always be times where e are left to our own devices.

Now i agree PvP is an important part of the game and that there is always risks and such.

But seriously, when did it become acceptable to pick on the little guy. Its utterly pathetic! Id like to say you wouldnt do it IRL, but i dont know. Your probably the type of people who would beat partners and children cos it makes you feel big.

But your not, your crap. You have simply played long enough to earn enough ISK and train enough skills to fly these ganking ships. And now you hide in high sec getting your little kicks hitting at the hard workers working to provide the materials you all need. If you were actually any good, truely had any skill, you would P*** of and find a real fight, more evenly matched.

If the consensus is that ganking is fine, then sure ill go with that, ill watch my back and just try to get on. But dont act like your the high and mighty for doing it. If we're playing it that way then accept your role; you are the Scum, the lowest of the low of Eve and nothing more.

Sorry if I offended you with my post. It was prehaps not helpful to suggest you get a second account for the transport pilot. (The average age of an EvE player is 32 and an EvE subscription costs the same as two pints of Beer in Scotland - So I made a bad assumption and I'm sorry).

But yes. I too have been concerned that Greifing is encouraged and rewarded by EvE. It is the same behaviour that would be seen as bullying outside of EvE. But EvE is a game and it isn't personal. I wouldn't and don't engage in greifing activities, my in game persona is basically the same as my out of game one. But in an FPS where people shoot at one another the PvP there is not seen as greifing.

There are simpler things to do to avoid problems. There are lots of less populated systems, which don't have many miners, (thus targets for gankers), and where Local will be quieter. In these systems you will have a better heads up for incomming trouble.

Otherwise - most missions contain asteroids you can mine. Why not take your stuff to one of these and clean them out after your missions? Suicide Gankers are much less likly to scan someone down mining in a missions zone than to just warp to a belt.

Also - if you fit medium sheild extenders Rigs a DCU, a couple of Invuls and then three, (i think), medium sheild extenders - you Hulk becomes quite tough - much tougher than suciciders in Destroyers can easily take. (Not saying they won't try or be happy to die in sufficent quantities).

Also - if mining is bothering you at the moment - try exploration. there are some really cool things you can find in low population high-sec.

Stick with it though. And take care,

Its not that you offended me, not personally. Just that it gets frustrating that this suggestion always crops up lol.

Now i'm a student, i don't have allot of money nor always allot of time to be on Eve training everything up and earning mega ISK. I like to play in my spare time to just relax a while and have a chat with others. and no i wouldn't complain about greifing in an FPS but that is because an FPS is specifically for fighting and killing.

However Eve is an MMO RPG and a sandbox one at that. That means its aimed at a wide base of players and fully intends to provide a rich variety of game play styles. That includes both the fighting and killing side and the gathering and creating side.

What really gets me is that every point of development bangs on and on about "BALANCING" but this is only ever for military players. Where is the balance for newer players and miners getting blown up in high sec by ships that belong in low sec systems with adversaries of similar power and skill (I use the word skill VERY lightly)

I typed an answer, it did not make it to the thread.

Weird.

I'm not typing it again.

Its called pay attention to your environment and don't afk mine.

What is so damned hard about paying attention to local...not mining whilst asleep...and using a little common sense when living in high sec?

Are you people brain damaged or something?