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You cant expect these people to have any skill to do these sorts of things you have listed. They require true skill knowledge and tactics because the things there actually pose a threat to them. That's why they so aggressively oppose such changes as suggested, they are only capable of feeling big by killing the defenseless and Industrialists.

I know he is on my side and i appreciate what he is saying. My point is trying to get that across to guys like you is like talking to a brick wall. You will never see and take on and try to understand others points of view because you only want things they way they suit you.

So Suicide gank the Suicide gankers?

Anywho, It took me a little while to remember what the name was, but alot of what you see from people in eve can be attributed to what is known as "Stockholm Syndrome"

Basically people get to a point where their enemy is their friend, and they start to do things they normally wouldn't do because for whatever reason it now seems to be the right way to do things.

I can Genuinely tell you from experience from the multiple corp mates i have had that Stockholm Syndrome does exist in eve.

The only way to not get suicide ganked is to not undock at all. IF that is how CCP wants people to play eve, then that is how they want people to play eve.

You sir, seem to easily judge people on the PvE side of eve as them being wrong in how they play eve right to where you say "A concept you people lack". Doing the PvE thing is not Playing eve wrong.

You are insisting that PvP and Ganking are the right things to do in eve, when in fact there is PvE content in eve to be enjoyed too (mining, missions, invention, exploration, ratting, manufacturing, wormholes, and incursions). The people that like PvE should be able to enjoy the PvE aspects, and have every right to push forward ideas that could improve their PvE experience.

EVE is not completely PVP. Complete PVP is your first person shooters and halo and going out to play paintball. If eve was completely PvP, there would be no PvE content.

But yes, even the most craziest PvE person likes the occasional PvP.

I agree. EVE is not fair. In the end, it is a business, and CCP will do whatever it takes to protect the business. I am sorry if all you "ganking is pvp" people think that's unfair, but I can see hardcoded changes being introduced to stop or at least severely reduce attacks on industrials and mining ships in Highsec.

Yes, there should be much harsher consequences for ganking.
Yes, CONCORD should not be protecting people with bounties on them in Highsec.
Yes, maybe if you have negative security status you should be podded by CONCORD and your medical clone kicked to lowsec.

I do agree that since Hulklageddon began, there has been a drop off in player activity in highsec. The "if you don't like it, leave" advice has been followed. Why am I still here? I want EVE to thrive, not limp along.

And yes, I have the tactics, experience, and practice to say with complete confidence that the current highsec ganking is simply not balanced. It's rubbish PvP, and if that is the best PvP EVE has going for it at the moment, then this game is in much more trouble than I originally thought.

Oh, to the DEVS: for every miner ship killed, there should be an option for the miner to vote on targets for a CONCORD incursion into null sec. If Goons mock CONCORD, then CONCORD should conquor some of thier moon mining billions systems. So what if that leads to 1.0 systems that Goons can't go into themselves? No-one said anything was set in stone, or fair. And if null sec alliances are so bored that the most fun thing they can do is suicide highsec players out of the game, then they need something to do. Revese incursions of Empires / CONCORD into Null would be nice to see - if Sansha can do it into Highsec, so can the winning sides in the great war.

Alts. vOv

No I have seen pvp game after pvp game close down in the past few years. The only reason EVE has survived against that trend has been because the Highsec system provided an effectively no-PvP playstyle option for customers.

That is currently over.

Unless CCP restores it, then I am concerned EVE will follow the long path of all those other pvp games that gave players a sandbox and pvp, and closed when all the players did was turn it into a kitty litter box full of smelly things and most of thier customers simply quit.

Basically, EVE will need to get its act together, or when Darkness comes out, EVE will be in reinforced mode. The best and brightest CCP have will be working on Darkness, which if it takes off will be the core growth area of thier business. You can whine, wail, and complain all you want but the bottom line is simple: CCP have been spending a ton of money on advertising EVE to bring in new players, if the community undermines CCP's player base expansion efforts, then it has only itself to blame if CCP implements hard coded changes you don't want. I have seen that in other games too, which tried too little too late to stem the loss of social / casual players, which failures I am certain CCP will be well aware of. So my guess is they will either accept the loss of customers and simply put their efforts towards Darkness, or they will go very strongly into creating "carebear space":

Do you want the current no-pvp zones to get bigger? I was shocked to find out they had been added while I was gone, but they make sense. How big do you think they will become if you keep advocating for players to quit EVE, and players keep doing so?

Do I think CCP might give in and add "Gold Star Insurance" for US$1 a ship per month, that such a ship cannot be attacked in Highsec at all? Yes. Their aggressive PLEX marketing and the international economic situation suggests they need the money, so watch this space. And when things don't go the way you want them to, remember you had this chance to propose positive systems changes that addressed the underlying issues wihtout breaking the freedom of the sandbox.

Tank your exhumers. No need for CCP to code changes.

I wouldn't be surprised if the only change CCP really needs to do, is to make it so pods aren't treated specially. I.e. a -10 pod would get popped just like he would in a ship.

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Mhmmm, a bit like Conc just look the other way if anyone wants to warp scram and pod that defenseless little blob cos he is a gutless criminal. Sounds all good.