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New dev blog: Unified inventory

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Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#801 - 2012-05-23 12:17:46 UTC
I believe this is just beginning and they will improve it in time, you just need to be patient. Anger and rage is not really helping anything. It's heading in right direction in my opinion and i already starting to love it.

Only thing i am missing is to make "favorite containers" or hide those i don't care about. It's hard to navigate through tree full of POS modules that are not relevant for me.

All other things are just small glitches.
disasteur
disasterous industries
#802 - 2012-05-23 12:19:08 UTC
Steijn wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Patch notes for today's patch.

Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status.



Fixed an issue where the new Unified Inventory would reopen every time a character jumped, docked, undocked or otherwise performed a session change.


not true, still does it.



there is just one issue with the new inventory crap, and that is its existence throw it in the recyclebin will fix this and many other crap so called improvements
Krystyn
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#803 - 2012-05-23 12:23:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Krystyn
Half my corp quit the game over these wonderful 'improvements' that nobody asked for..thanks CCP
Where the heck did my ships go?!?
How the frak am I supposed to find anything or sort anything.
Maybe if you have 2 ships and a few fittings it might be a little nicer, but I have hangars full of junk all over the place and this doesn't help me at all.
disasteur
disasterous industries
#804 - 2012-05-23 12:30:27 UTC
Krystyn wrote:
Half my corp quit the game ever these wonderful 'improvements' that nobody asked for..thanks CCP



just wondering how many people are willing to quit this game, cus of the crap inventory issue


i for one will not log in until its fixed or improved (or better the old style)




ps.

and no you cant have my stuff either Cool
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#805 - 2012-05-23 12:37:54 UTC
Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !".
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#806 - 2012-05-23 12:39:52 UTC
Ishanmae wrote:
Callidus Dux wrote:
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...

Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work.

CALM DOWN? NO! They ignore us. They ignore us since the release ov EVE. NO Arrow in this forum says something about his own encumbered crap UI. CCP had ALL the feedback from the player testers but they ignored us. I WILL NEVER CALM DOWN TILL THIS CRAP UI IS BURNED.


No Arrow here might mean he's checking things out and trying to fix things... Please, don't calm down, rage quit, but give me your stuff first!



I will not rage quit. I want, that CCP rolls back his sh!t. This is a difference!
BTW: Why do you think that I should give all my stuff to someone I dont know nor like?
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#807 - 2012-05-23 12:43:35 UTC
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !".


You are online since: 2012.03.09. If you were online since 4 years you would know that it would be stupid to be patient with CCP till they have changed things. The need te be kicked in theyr a$$. Otherwise they do not recognize the paying customer base.
Sad but true. Sad
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#808 - 2012-05-23 12:49:04 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !".


You are online since: 2012.03.09. If you were online since 4 years you would know that it would be stupid to be patient with CCP till they have changed things. The need te be kicked in theyr a$$. Otherwise they do not recognize the paying customer base.
Sad but true. Sad


Well i am developer in RL and i know how paying customers can be pain in ass. You can hardly ever to satisfy them, they will always just see errors and things than could be better. So now when i am on other side, i know how it's hard for them have it and i know that yelling at them is not really solution. It just slow things down and some real issues and suggestion from here are easily lost in that spam in here.
Zwoot
Dark Fusion Industries
#809 - 2012-05-23 12:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Zwoot
I won't scream in anger or anything but imo this UI change is 100% fail.

I liked having many windows opened at the same time. It gave me good overwiev and control of what I was displaying at any given time.
For me, this change is 100% bad and unnecessary. It wasn't broken in the first place just because some devs hates right-click menus What?

Tried doing some casual mining and really TRIED to understand how the mind of Arrow and his goons worked when they constructed this menace but I just couldn't wrap my head around it.
This new UI makes Eve boring and tedious to play...looting wrecks, mining, sitting at a POS and trying to move stuff around...all a nightmare right now.

I live in a WH so I have only tested the new UI briefly with an alt in a station but with similar feelings.

Wonder if it's dumb prestige that allows this kind of untested, unwanted crap that makes it HARDER to handle your inventory to reach TQ.
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#810 - 2012-05-23 12:52:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Soniver Rozaklis
Zwoot wrote:
I liked having many windows opened at the same time. It gave me good overwiev and control of what I was displaying at any given time.


But you can still open separate windows with all containers you like. There is just clumsy thing about finding them in tree (index) and opening with shift+click, but this will surely change. Than you will have back your "old" system with features of new system. Just give it some time and patience.

Before today patch there was error when clicking Open Cargo on some container it displayed cargo of ship, but that is fixed now after DT and behaves as expected.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#811 - 2012-05-23 12:53:04 UTC
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Callidus Dux wrote:
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !".


You are online since: 2012.03.09. If you were online since 4 years you would know that it would be stupid to be patient with CCP till they have changed things. The need te be kicked in theyr a$$. Otherwise they do not recognize the paying customer base.
Sad but true. Sad


Well i am developer in RL and i know how paying customers can be pain in ass. You can hardly ever to satisfy them, they will always just see errors and things than could be better. So now when i am on other side, i know how it's hard for them have it and i know that yelling at them is not really solution. It just slow things down and some real issues and suggestion from here are easily lost in that spam in here.


Than please have a look at the Test server forums please. They have all the feedback from their testing players but ignored ALL of them. What should I say? This whole UI-Crap-Sh!t should have never come online. It was never ever a good idea to bring ALL available windows into one. If this would be a good idea; the most people would play eve with this setup. Because it was possible to drag all Windows together till yesterday. But no one did it. Its a crap idea. Nothing more. The whole concept needs to be burned in hell.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#812 - 2012-05-23 12:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Zwoot wrote:
I liked having many windows opened at the same time. It gave me good overwiev and control of what I was displaying at any given time.


But you can still open separate windows with all containers you like. There is just clumsy thing about finding them in tree (index) and opening with shift+click, but this will surely change. Than you will have back your "old" system with features of new system. Just give it some time and patience.


NO! NEVER!! This does not work. I had a overview of a list, sortet according meta level in my station container named LOOT. If I want to setup this again; ALL MY WINDOWS have the list, sorted according Meta level of the items. What is this ****? Burn this fugg and fire CCP Arrow! As I stated on january.. THIS IS A IDIOTIC IDEA to have windows, which doesnt fit together into one window.
Why is my drone bay; ship hangar or station container in one fugging window? I want seperate windows for each hangar/ container/bay!
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#813 - 2012-05-23 12:55:39 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
[Than please have a look at the Test server forums please. They have all the feedback from their testing players but ignored ALL of them. What should I say? This whole UI-Crap-Sh!t should have never come online. It was never ever a good idea to bring ALL available windows into one. If this would be a good idea; the most people would play eve with this setup. Because it was possible to drag all Windows together till yesterday. But no one did it. Its a crap idea. Nothing more. The whole concept needs to be burned in hell.


Sorry but i am here to play and have fun. I have enough of testing and bug fixing from my RL job. I am not doing it here. I will rather sit patiently and wait for them to sort out things. Dozens of angry posts and mails is not gonna make it faster.
disasteur
disasterous industries
#814 - 2012-05-23 12:57:20 UTC
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Zwoot wrote:
I liked having many windows opened at the same time. It gave me good overwiev and control of what I was displaying at any given time.


But you can still open separate windows with all containers you like. There is just clumsy thing about finding them in tree (index) and opening with shift+click, but this will surely change. Than you will have back your "old" system with features of new system. Just give it some time and patience.

Before today patch there was error when clicking Open Cargo on some container it displayed cargo of ship, but that is fixed now after DT and behaves as expected.



true i tried it, and it works great when you have to salvage multiple wrecks..... oww the joy i had....

but... it isnt that hard... come try it... say the words... yes it is crap! say it, say it, you can do it :)



and no you still cant have my stuff
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#815 - 2012-05-23 12:58:00 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
NO! NEVER!! This does not work. I had a overview of a list, sortet according meta level in my station container named LOOT. If I want to setup this again; ALL MY WINDOWS have the list, sorted according Meta level of the items. What is this ****? Burn this fugg and fire CCP Arrow! As I stated on january.. THIS IS A IDIOTIC IDEA!


I think you don't understand one thing. There is small arrow that allows you to hide whole tree, so than it looks mostly like old window just with cargo capacity and extended filters.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#816 - 2012-05-23 12:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Callidus Dux wrote:
Than please have a look at the Test server forums please. They have all the feedback from their testing players but ignored ALL of them. What should I say? This whole UI-Crap-Sh!t should have never come online. It was never ever a good idea to bring ALL available windows into one. If this would be a good idea; the most people would play eve with this setup. Because it was possible to drag all Windows together till yesterday. But no one did it. Its a crap idea. Nothing more. The whole concept needs to be burned in hell.


Sorry but i am here to play and have fun. I have enough of testing and bug fixing from my RL job. I am not doing it here. I will rather sit patiently and wait for them to sort out things. Dozens of angry posts and mails is not gonna make it faster.

Have a look at it. Than you will see, what I mean. CCP hates its customers and denies ANY feedback from them. So they have to deal with OUR feedback. If you find a bug on SISI you can be sure that this bug will 100% go live 1to1 on the live server.
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#817 - 2012-05-23 12:59:24 UTC
disasteur wrote:
true i tried it, and it works great when you have to salvage multiple wrecks..... oww the joy i had....

but... it isnt that hard... come try it... say the words... yes it is crap! say it, say it, you can do it :)


What is crap exactly ? Still repeating same words with no real reasons...
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts
#818 - 2012-05-23 13:01:20 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
Sorry but i am here to play and have fun. I have enough of testing and bug fixing from my RL job. I am not doing it here. I will rather sit patiently and wait for them to sort out things. Dozens of angry posts and mails is not gonna make it faster.
Have a look at it. Than you will see, what I mean. CCP hates its customers and denies ANY feedback from them. So they have to deal with OUR feedback. If you find a bug on SISI you can be sure that this bug will 100% go live 1to1 on the live server.

Ok, so you are just mad because they wasn't listening to some hot-headed arguments and released it. Well i kinda understand them, because you can hardly make decision based on some angry arguments, you need more feedback and what's better than publish it for all and let feedback flow ? :)
Blue Harrier
#819 - 2012-05-23 13:01:51 UTC
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Callidus Dux wrote:
[Than please have a look at the Test server forums please. They have all the feedback from their testing players but ignored ALL of them. What should I say? This whole UI-Crap-Sh!t should have never come online. It was never ever a good idea to bring ALL available windows into one. If this would be a good idea; the most people would play eve with this setup. Because it was possible to drag all Windows together till yesterday. But no one did it. Its a crap idea. Nothing more. The whole concept needs to be burned in hell.


Sorry but i am here to play and have fun. I have enough of testing and bug fixing from my RL job. I am not doing it here. I will rather sit patiently and wait for them to sort out things. Dozens of angry posts and mails is not gonna make it faster.


That is what my son said last night just before he canceled his account, something I never thought for one moment he would do. No fanfare just close his client looked at me and said 'I get paid real money to bugfix and code suff at work I don't want to come home and do the same to relax'

He then opened the account management and closed his account and he has been playing for around 5 years.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#820 - 2012-05-23 13:03:04 UTC
Soniver Rozaklis wrote:
Sorry but i am here to play and have fun. I have enough of testing and bug fixing from my RL job. I am not doing it here. I will rather sit patiently and wait for them to sort out things. Dozens of angry posts and mails is not gonna make it faster.


Well. I hope you have a lot of patience, as we have been telling them constantly over the last few weeks. All to no avail.