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New dev blog: Unified inventory

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Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#721 - 2012-05-22 19:30:00 UTC
This is hilarious.

Let me see - what was all that fuss last year about? Oh yes, part of it, as I recall, was about the functionality of the Hangar view, about things like dragging and dropping ships, and about less clicks to do a job.

You gotta laugh.

Not that it isn't a nice UI, I mean it's basically Windows Explorer and all, so it has the virtue of familiarity. Unforutnately it's not familiarity with EVE.

It's an improvement in many ways, but guys, you need some way of easing players into it. You're messing with reflexes that people have been building into their system for years.

Once again, for many players, what felt like "home" is now something alien. Same as with the removal of Hangar view last year.

Not that I think this is as big a problem as what happened last year, but it needs a quick going-over and quick patch.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#722 - 2012-05-22 19:43:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
Zo'ha wrote:
This is the single worst 'improvement' to the game that has ever been made.



For real. Even with Incarna CQ there was at least a feature that was indeed nifty....It just was half-baked and only 1/4 finished on release.

There is just not even potential usefulness here.

ISSUES WHERE THERE WERE NONE BEFORE.


I've honestly tried working with it but I've given up. Just not even gonna putter around these last few weeks before I expire.

Thanks for nothing at all, CCP.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#723 - 2012-05-22 19:48:13 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:
You're messing with reflexes that people have been building into their system for years.




Don't lose this sentence CCP. Hints of this were in the Feedback when you did the simplest thing: dropped the parenthesis from the Stargate Names. And you thought THIS would just fly by without a care ? how much more blindness are you going to demonstrate ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Pierced Brosmen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#724 - 2012-05-22 19:57:50 UTC
I try to have my station inventory window small (verticaly) and so I minimized the filters list... But every time I dock they come back even though the system thinks they are minimized...
So I have to click once to "open" it, and then again to minimize it again

Sometimes when undocking or jumping through a gate, my cargohold opens in two separate windows
phobos1
Globaltech Industries
#725 - 2012-05-22 20:00:04 UTC
PirateWell they really screwed up this time lol -- this new inventory system is a load of sh*te put it back too the old system !! Shocked at least we could find the stuff -- but as I know from bitter experience CCP are never wrong -- keep paying your euro's and stop moaning that's all they say .Twisted
Adolf Hilmar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#726 - 2012-05-22 20:20:20 UTC
Is this where I go to complain about the new inventory system?

I will pay aurum to disable it.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#727 - 2012-05-22 20:24:22 UTC
Hire two new guys, tell them to fix something they don't know, then shove the barely tested and partially broken outcome down the throat of EVE's incredibly forgiving and peaceful player base... what could go wrong? Huh? Lol

(I take this chance to laugh before logging in to meet with The Window... I hope it will not mess too much with my way of doing things...)
Andy Russian
H.E.L.L.O.
Entropia Alliance
#728 - 2012-05-22 20:29:14 UTC
If new invenory remains, i cancel subscription (now all from credit card) for 4 account.
CCP must return old inventory, like old Ship Hangar.
With these updates EVE will be dead shortly...
Maybe i can pay for personal patch with old inventory? How much?
Jack Parr
Kzinti Hegemony
#729 - 2012-05-22 20:30:46 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Our UI people have been on a tear lately, reshaping EVE's many interfaces and making the experience of using them a lot more pleasant.

Please read the latest on your user friendly EVE future in this blog from CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal.


I just wish that someone had seen what a mess the new inventory system is BEFORE you forced it on us.

37 PAGES!?!?!

And nobody noticed what a mess the inventory is?

Who do I have to blow to get the old inventory back?

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average goon."      - The Mittani

Skogen Gump
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#730 - 2012-05-22 20:39:42 UTC
Just to add my voice to the throng; This is irritating please fix it!

In particular I wish the windows I had open would re-open when I re-dock.

Please let me have a specific button for my ships cargo.

Please let me drag mixed ships and modules from a container and have it still work!
(it used to filter ships and modules/ammo/charges into the right hangar)

Consider adding automatic categories so that my high/low/mid/ammo/charge/other items can be separated *if I choose that view!*

Please stop loot windows in space jumping around when I'm in/out of range as when I MWD towards a cargo container.

Other wise I love the new feature; it just needs a bit of tweaking...
Marina Loki
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#731 - 2012-05-22 20:48:37 UTC
Where can i deactivate unified inventory?

When i want to set up invention or production at a pos it takes me extremly long time to open the hangar divisions of several modules.
I never have seen such a stupid function like this, it takes triple time to set invention and production now, thats not funny!!
IWolfMasterI
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#732 - 2012-05-22 20:54:20 UTC
I want my old UI back, why fix things that aren't broken, focus on other more important things.
Au' Tena
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#733 - 2012-05-22 20:59:43 UTC
tl;dr all messages above

love the new inventory. yes its buggy, but the idea is sound. good work !
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#734 - 2012-05-22 21:05:45 UTC
I think it's pretty clear that the people who worked on this new UI never play EVE and have no clue whatsoever what would be convenient for the players and why. Epic fail.
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#735 - 2012-05-22 21:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Dream Five
Quote:


In particular I wish the windows I had open would re-open when I re-dock.





Absolutely required. All windows must remember their complete state.
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#736 - 2012-05-22 21:11:58 UTC
The price estimates displayed at the bottom are super way off nowhere near real numbers.
Brutal Red
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#737 - 2012-05-22 21:18:14 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Hire two new guys, tell them to fix something they don't know, then shove the barely tested and partially broken outcome down the throat of EVE's incredibly forgiving and peaceful player base... what could go wrong? Huh? Lol

(I take this chance to laugh before logging in to meet with The Window... I hope it will not mess too much with my way of doing things...)


Lol , first the problem was "The Door" , now it's "The Window" P

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#738 - 2012-05-22 22:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Dream Five
All undocked windows (with shift) must not close and must remember their positions.

This will effectively bring back the old inventory.

The small patch of window area to the right of the vertical scroll bar makes it so you can drag the window around. That is super stupid, irritating and completely unnecessary. Just make the scrollbar cover the whole area so i don't have to use a laser micrometer to position my mouse over the freaking tiny scrollbar.

Convenience should be the driving factor for UI changes..
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#739 - 2012-05-22 22:38:04 UTC
Jack Parr wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Our UI people have been on a tear lately, reshaping EVE's many interfaces and making the experience of using them a lot more pleasant.

Please read the latest on your user friendly EVE future in this blog from CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal.


I just wish that someone had seen what a mess the new inventory system is BEFORE you forced it on us.

37 PAGES!?!?!

And nobody noticed what a mess the inventory is?

Who do I have to blow to get the old inventory back?
I'll take that hummer, if you please. A mouth is a mouth, no?

As far as 37 pages of people not noticing, please read again. There were some very well thought out posts and Tippia even published a detailed video to youtube on the subject.

CCP had their customer feedback and not only did they choose not to act upon those communications, it appears that CCP barely tested the code against all of their use cases which they surely had set up and documented during the design phase of this feature....

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.

Stigman Zuwadza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#740 - 2012-05-22 23:20:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Stigman Zuwadza
Bazinga!

Sowwy, couldn't help myself. Big smile

Not sure if you could do this with the old UI, but as I changed over to lists I found I couldn't copy / paste anything from the new UI. I can however copy / paste from assets (which is where I probably did my copy / paste stuff before the new UI).

Also, I think the Item Hanger should be the default view when opening the new UI, not the ship you have active.

Fly safe. o7

It's broken and it's been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come.