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The new inventory is brilliant. No more no less !
We still can open multiple inventories by holding the Shift key, which sometime help for the drag and drop.

Fantastic. Love

Remind me again who you are? Right now your spouting reminds me of the OLD fanfest FW video which was full of idiots like Chatgris talking about FW plexing/Occupancy without ever actually participated in it (at least before CCP gave them their wish regarding plex spawns and npc nerf).

No, the majority of the major Faction Warfare changes (with the exception of datacores) were all ideas that originated from within the community.

From all the of GOOD things that are coming that everyone agreed on (LP for kills, LP for plexing), to even the controversial changes like station docking denial, probably 95% of the current package stems from FW community feedback.

If you don't believe me, time to start re-reading old threads.

People will wail and gnash their teeth about "being forced into nullsec" but really there is little in this package that resembles anything within null sec. The exception is docking denial, which like I said is something that many FW pilots have asked for historically.

The other cool thing is that players have complete freedom to participate or not participate in the coming system. Don't want to run missions? PvP for your income instead, you can actually make a living doing that now. Don't want to upgrade your system? Fine, keep your LP. Don't want to be locked out of a station? Quit FW for a day and re-enlist when you get your stuff moved. Station lockout won't keep anyone from playing the game, it'll be more like a time out box, unless you have a neutral alt. For those with neutral alts, its even less of a big deal, you just have to do a little work to get your stuff back. No different than having to work to repair a POS after an enemy's banged it up. Its a consequence. Consequence is what EVE is all about. Its not the consequence I would have chosen, but its also not outrageous to say that owners of a station should deny docking to a sworn enemy.

Nothing here that is forced on anyone, which is another good thing. It wouldn't be a sandbox otherwise. There will be pilots that just enjoy the fact that they get paid to pew, and do nothing else. They wont care about holding a system, they'll just dock on the fringe, and raid into enemy territory and get paid more to kill than ever before.

Others will go for the full package, coordinating efforts to take and hold space and reap the benefits. There are multiple levels to be involved or not be involved, and there are multiple ways to deal with the few consequences that are being implemented, CCP is expecting FW pilots to HTFU and learn to creatively deal with the challenges.

I believe enough in the FW community that I think most people will learn to do just that. There will be those that just rage and quit before they've even seen how this turns out, but I think most FW pilots are tough enough and skilled enough to be able to compensate and perform even when their faction is in a difficult situation.

In the old days, there was no incentive to fight back. Thats why we've been pitchforking for years. Now, there is more reason to fight back than ever before. We are to blame for the current package, not anyone in null sec.

Absolutely love the updated Blood Raider ships... now I'll have to train into lasers to fly them, aaaargh! And once I'm able to you'll update the Minmatar ships - I'm doomed... :/ Other amarr ships are fine, they still have that golden look, but it's not like they're plated in gold or whatever. Wouldn't change that any further, it's nice. :)

New bombers are nice, but I'm still not sure about the new hound. Judging by turret dimensions, it seems to be massive and possibly be the biggest bomber? Although it's missing something, the structure looks too simple without some more sails.

Oh and that bomb launcher... guess I'll have to fit one just for the looks of it. :D

Btw.: In case noone noticed; the new bombers got a forced slot layout based on weapon category (so bomb launchers and torpedo launchers always occupy the same 4 slots). Very nice idea.

Too dark amarr models such as Guardian, Paladin and Absolution. Red is nice but as a whole gives a very dark effect

Guardian looks like a black ball

Even though earlier ships were all black you could see their details. Now in the case of the red version is almost impossible.

New inventory - cool and i think it will serve better than old but we need some time to get used

Amarr V3 - fantastic!

Stealth Bombers - omg caldari looks so awesome

Missile Lanuchers effects etc - meh :/ disappointed, they cut fps dramatically, torps and cruise looks the same, drake looks like crap (it needs little just little redesign - cut missiles bay and there put launchers), small number of effects :/

Wow, the new stasis webifier drones are so awesome, I'm sure that the -5% velocity penalty of Warrior SW-300's will ruin the day of many pilots

Just been on SISI. Is there a specific thread for faction warfare feedback?

Factional warfare hubs look good, change in clone costs being the key upgrade.

Faction warfare info panel is blank.

Not sure about the docking changes, I am a generally solo casual player with little time, I already quite often log of in space (sometimes even seems safer than having to undock later) it is the inability to resupply or repair that may affect me most. Not being able to pick up extra drones or ammo will make things tricky.

Many people will get round this with neutral alts although I would question that if people are required to do this to get round the docking change then perhaps this is not the right decision. There will probably even be a role for neutral logistics corps (in the traditional sense not RR) or even alliances to keep supplies and ships spread through the combat zone and make use of the upgraded enemy systems. Is this good or bad I don’t know?

There is something to be said for removing someone from the fight for a period of time rather than them being able to reship immediately, but how many people when faced with a multi jump two way journey just to get another ship will finish for the day. You will also be required to make one leg in your pod (can pods dock and get a rookie ship, have not checked?) so good job that there is the cloning cost upgrade.

Does anyone know if it affects enemy high sec stations?

I have noted that the dock command will warp me to the station and then deny me docking rights; can I get a warning message before initiating warp please?

I would perhaps propose that you can always access your militia corp stations and that they perhaps be redistributed more evenly through the warzone.

LP store data cores seem cheap enough.

Anyone have any info over LP rewards for plex and PVP?

There will be a specific one posted when the dev blog (which will hopefully answer most of your questions) comes out next week. Until than, this is the official feedback thread for the SiSi changes.

Unfortunately, people have been mostly abusing the thread so far with doomsday scenario speculation, instead of just sharing their thoughts on what they SEE on SiSi, much you like you did.

Thanks for your level-headed and open-minded approach to the changes. If the rest of the community goes into this with your attitude we'll be in good shape.

Unfortunately when everyone knowing when the patch is coming, outnumbered sides (= Amarr & Caldari) will lose all their FW agent stations day before expansion is applied when system can be taken in couple of hours since the opposing side has enough time to make sure people ditch their rl plans, CTA whole militia and everyone makes sure they are willing to be available for plexing for 7-8h needed for the operation.

Other side can make defense plans but with outnumbered being the issue what it is, ultimately there is little to do than except perhaps delay system flipping by 1-2 hour in each case with pointless suicide runs. Past examples of this are plenty with CCP playing favourites, "Dominion debacle" being the best one.

And after expansion? There is no way outnumbered militia can ever regain those systems because the blob will always be there and it will always have time to form.

And someone still wears rose coloured glasses and says "things will turn out well for all militias".

EDIT: This is important. With SOV changing to occupier, this also removes the benefit of original sov holder and the increased plex spawn at DT. I might add THIS WAS ORIGINALLY GIVEN AS STEALTH NERF TO GALLENTE BECAUSE THEY DIDNT WANT TO COMPETE WITH CALDARI ON EU TZ.

Oh and CCP is totally unbiased when it comes to FW. Honestly.