EVE General Discussion

its a sandbox

Pointing out where, almost immediately, you made your error.

You can do anything in this game that you want to, and are able to, just like anyone else.

If you feel you can't do something because of the actions of other players, that's YOUR issue... not anyone else.

We all have the same tool set at our disposal, including you.

hey i said that

Everyone is free to do whatever they want whenever they want as long as it isn't cheating. *snip* - ISD LoneLynx You're also free to use one of the other three market hubs. You're even free to go invade goon space and get them back for burn jita. You're also free to kiss my hairy ass if you don't like your options. There are no PvP disabled safe zones in Eve. There never have been and there never will be. It's not like this is some big surprise. There's nothing new here. Jita has tons of ships killed every day. It's one of the most violent systems in Eve. If you wanted zones where PvP is impossible you should have signed up for a game that has them. I hear WoW is popular with your kind.

That's not even close to what's happening. What's happening here is like if we were playing chess and I killed your queen, then you threw a massive fit and demanded the rules of chess be changed to save your queen. This is not a case of someone blocking my access to what I paid for. Player driven content and drama is exactly what I'm paying for. YOU'RE the one trying to block my cable.

I've never seen anyone do it, have only heard about it once.

About the only way to manage it in a way that would get you any kind of GM attention would be if it was a NPC corp toon, since anything else can be classified as a tactical attack on someone ;)

Like I said, you have to REALLY work at it to get any kind of GM attention for harassment.

Or, actually, you can just call people hate filled racial epithets, which is punishable with an instant permaban. Never seen that one actually enforced tho, even tho its clearly stated in the EULA, only seen people get muted in local for it. If it was actually enforced, TEST alliance would not exist.

Edit: Convenient link to the relevant excerpt from the EULA

This is a long post, but I don't entirely disagree with it. I draw the line where most others do, though I am in disagreement with the majority of responses as they are framed.

Basically, what I have to say is this:

GSF is doing what they want and it is completely acceptable from a game design standpoint. If you disagree with it as a player, it is as a player you should deal with it. There are plenty of options and you don't have to let them gank your freighter or prevent you from enjoying your game.

Foreknowledge is the best knowledge. Something we rarely have in real life, yet in this game, players like those behind Burn Jita and Hulkageddon are perfectly willing to provide that for all players. This isn't some event that spontaneously combusted, but one that took some careful planning and preparation.

The players were warned it was coming, and the Devs knew about it early on, either from GSF making there intentions known publicly or GSF informing the Devs that the node needed to be reinforced by other means. Same as is required for Alliance fights to prepare that node for battle when it occurs. I don't know whether this official notification was required in this case or not with all the prior warning that was given on the forums well in advance. Probably still regardless.

There is a purpose for Burn Jita. Not everyone may be aware of it, but it provides the players an opportunity to profit, mixes things up, and may well eventually break a stalemate in the market with the conclusion of Hulkageddon. It isn't something that is done for no reason, and it may well be that the Devs see an opportunity to make use of it for other purposes never intended by the playerbase. I would, were I them.

I don't mean advertising either, though it obviously is doing that with or without their assistance. It has to do with ISK, and encompasses both economic analysis in events like these and can include other things I'll not mention here.

This isn't like the cable company laughing at people for missing their favorite TV show. That is a rather poor analogy and unfounded. You are perfectly within your rights and ability to play EVE the way you want, if not within the standard method you would normally follow. Things have changed and you must adapt. This is dynamic gameplay made possible by a portion of the playerbase for both your and there entertainment.

What entertainment you derive from it is entirely up to you, and you can make the best or worst of it as you see fit. I'm sure you would be quite happy if you had found a way to profit from it, as I would be. I haven't because I was unwilling to risk my limited means on such an endeavour, but it doesn't mean I have not enjoyed it or at least been interested by the ongoing events.

tl;dr: You don't have to be negatively affected by events such as these; it is your choice to allow them to affect you this way, and to continue to do so is counterproductive to your enjoyment of the game.

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*Disclaimer: Certain sections of your post have been randomly eliminated to make room for me to type this.

the above is right. You should get banned from the forums if you throw a hissy fit or QQ
itd make the game more managable

You don't see the bigger picture .. It's all about money.

Someone sold those tornadoes. Someone is playing with the market speculating moon go, mineral prices, ice prices ....
It's all fan but some people at the top made a loot of isk speculating the markets....

What do you think is hulkagedon? It's a perfect way to earn money (isk )
Think who is sponsoring prizes in hulkagdon ???? those who control the market ...... look at the hulk prices rising

Why i should sell hulk for 200kk when i can organize hulk... and sell it for 350kk it's just profit ....

It's all about the fun But it's rely all about the MONEY.......
Ice field to low sec. It's all about controlling the market .
Lower ice supply = bigger profits for power blocks ...
Why are people crying to move lvl 4 to low sec. They say it's to much reward to low risk...

So what do you call ganking in high sec .....??? That's fair it's "sandbox"

76kkktitan dd logistics no to powerful nerfed... (not a sandbox)
76kkk titan killing a 200kk dictor /bs nerfed ... (not a sandbox)
4kk ship's killing a 300kk hulk it's sandbox stop crying.......
CCP is stupid i many cases they see the same things differently ....
High sec corp are not a powerful bloc that has any voice in CSM so nothing will eve be done in that matter.
CCP at some poin will have to decide when the want to give all power to 0.0 power block or to ballance it equaly to all sec space (high safe mining industry)(low pvp/faction warfare) (null power blocks play). No one should have the control over all (high/low/null) what is happenng right now...

<< Carebear
<< Lives in sandbox
<< Accepts GSF as the fly in the ointment
<< Loves GSF for being the fly in the ointment

Mittens & Company are the archetypal villains that every good story needs, without stuff like Burn Jita and Hulkageddon Eve would be just another MMO I wouldn't play, with them it's the only MMO I play.


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I'm so quoting this at the next person that tells me I'm playing the game wrong because I'm a carebear.