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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#421 - 2012-05-06 19:37:55 UTC
Fremfor wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
Not even going to bother with reading that wall of text but:



It's a sandbox, cry more

ill cry more for ya 7 accounts cancelled if i want to get F***** over ill just play real life....... i play mmo's to escape and relax not to have a bunch Of D**** decide they want to play there game by ruining mine Im out 5 years wasted have fun if you can


Later, bro.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
HRho
Mongolian Fire Squad
#422 - 2012-05-06 19:49:03 UTC
Damn dude i hate being suicide ganked but i accept it because its the sandbox effect and one of the biggest points that ccp makes is that they want it to stay that way. So even though i dont exactly support burn jita i accept it.

And anyone who doesnt accept it can go cry about it.
Hue Tog
23rd Reconnaisance Group
#423 - 2012-05-06 20:47:36 UTC
HRho wrote:
Damn dude i hate being suicide ganked but i accept it because its the sandbox effect and one of the biggest points that ccp makes is that they want it to stay that way. So even though i dont exactly support burn jita i accept it.

And anyone who doesnt accept it can go cry about it.



+1
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#424 - 2012-05-06 20:55:22 UTC
Why cant I scan down and run 10/10 plexes in xzh all day without these a-holes trying to kill me. I pay my subscription just like everyone else.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Criitucius
The Dark Horizon
#425 - 2012-05-06 22:43:29 UTC
I guess I wasn't clear enough. It isn't about your hated "Carebears". It isnt' about being podded. It isn't about losing a ship or two. If that's what it was, I could sit there doing level 4's until I just couldn't take it anymore (and I really can't take any more right now.) I also don't have the time or inclination to live, 18 hours a day, playing this game. Heck, I haven't even lost any ships to their antics.

It's about CCP allowing one or two groups to get together to completely control the digital economy, by deciding who will and won't participate in it.

Watch the prices of everything shoot up during this Hulkageddon. Remember how they shot up last time?...and this is threatened to go on for months. Only a few will profit by it and their lost destroyers and bounties are just a small cost of doing business.

There are a lot of other people that do nothing but gather and produce and they are quite happy doing it. I've talked to some of them and they are some of the nicest people I've run into in the game.

When the only producers are the people that have enough money, to be able to afford forcing most competition out of the market, they set the price...and the rules everyone else in the game play by.

...and if the response is...gee, we didn't think of that...yeah, right.

I have to assume that the people sitting on the other side of the keyboards have sense...except of course, the articulate thralls that come (or are sent here) to respond with "cry more, noob, why don't you go back to Hello Kitty?".
tleekett
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#426 - 2012-05-06 22:46:52 UTC
Everyone keeps stating they pay their 15 dollars a month, they should be able to play how they like. The allure of eve is the fact that you can get blown up in highsec, that nowhere is safe. Please tell me has anyone started playing eve without knowing people could blow you up in highsec in the time it takes for a trial verion to run out. I didn't think so. Knowing this information before you even purchase the game makes this arguement null and void. If you didn't want to get blown up in highsec, why did you go past the trial????
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#427 - 2012-05-06 22:48:28 UTC
tleekett wrote:
why did you go past the trial????


I liked the forums very friendly.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#428 - 2012-05-06 22:51:06 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
tleekett wrote:
why did you go past the trial????

I liked the forums very friendly.

Now, that was funny!

Nothing clever at this time.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#429 - 2012-05-06 23:21:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
*Edit - Double post

James315 for CSM 8!
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#430 - 2012-05-06 23:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Criitucius wrote:
I guess I wasn't clear enough. It isn't about your hated "Carebears". It isnt' about being podded. It isn't about losing a ship or two. If that's what it was, I could sit there doing level 4's until I just couldn't take it anymore (and I really can't take any more right now.) I also don't have the time or inclination to live, 18 hours a day, playing this game. Heck, I haven't even lost any ships to their antics.

It's about CCP allowing one or two groups to get together to completely control the digital economy, by deciding who will and won't participate in it.

Watch the prices of everything shoot up during this Hulkageddon. Remember how they shot up last time?...and this is threatened to go on for months. Only a few will profit by it and their lost destroyers and bounties are just a small cost of doing business.

There are a lot of other people that do nothing but gather and produce and they are quite happy doing it. I've talked to some of them and they are some of the nicest people I've run into in the game.

When the only producers are the people that have enough money, to be able to afford forcing most competition out of the market, they set the price...and the rules everyone else in the game play by.

...and if the response is...gee, we didn't think of that...yeah, right.

I have to assume that the people sitting on the other side of the keyboards have sense...except of course, the articulate thralls that come (or are sent here) to respond with "cry more, noob, why don't you go back to Hello Kitty?".


*Edit - Aw, it lost everything I typed in response...oh well...I have retyped.

Eve seems like it has a fairly free market; there are no anti-monopoly rules*, price manipulation is allowed, scams and fraud are allowed, etc. Welcome to Capitalism. It is the nature of pure Capitalism to have a few groups rise to power and control the market, thusly controlling the society; this is why countries do not run a pure Capitalistic model; there are always varying degrees of Capitalist and Socialist values/rules.

Since this is a game, I fully support that system. I say let Laissez Faire reign. I say let the cream rise to the top. I say let the powerful control the weak. Ayn Rand would be proud. I say remove what limits there are on the system; let us see if a dystopian society can be created and sustained. There will be those that fight the power, and those that submit; all this adds up to in game class warfare, which will provide conflict on a huge scale.

Remember, if the system is bad enough, the proles can always unite and fight back, toppling the old regime; establishing themselves as the new defacto rulers. Only inaction guarantees defeat.

In my research before I started playing, I learned about this economy and the rules this game have in place; it became immediately apparent, that the potential for what you described was there. That is one thing that attracted me to the game. If you do not like that potential, then perhaps this is not the game for you.

* Although the ability of any player to take on any roll makes monopolies ineffective. For example, since anyone can mine and manufacture, a mining monopoly or manufacturing monopoly would be able to be circumvented. Especially if a corporation was pvp capable, able to mine and manufacture; since they would be essentially self reliant, the monopoly would have very little effect on this corporation. In theory, the above corporation would not need the market for anything, so the monopoly would have no control over them.

James315 for CSM 8!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#431 - 2012-05-07 00:18:19 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Remember, if the system is bad enough, the proles can always unite and fight back, toppling the old regime; establishing themselves as the new defacto rulers. Only inaction guarantees defeat.

Whining is an action though, right?

Appeal to a ~higher power~ that can intervene on your behalf.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#432 - 2012-05-07 00:21:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Remember, if the system is bad enough, the proles can always unite and fight back, toppling the old regime; establishing themselves as the new defacto rulers. Only inaction guarantees defeat.

Whining is an action though, right?

Appeal to a ~higher power~ that can intervene on your behalf.


lawls...I guess you are right...whining is an action...but I never said taking "action" would guarantee victory...lol...

James315 for CSM 8!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#433 - 2012-05-07 00:36:31 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Remember, if the system is bad enough, the proles can always unite and fight back, toppling the old regime; establishing themselves as the new defacto rulers. Only inaction guarantees defeat.

Whining is an action though, right?

Appeal to a ~higher power~ that can intervene on your behalf.


lawls...I guess you are right...whining is an action...but I never said taking "action" would guarantee victory...lol...

Certainly. One man's victory is another man's (his opponent's maybe) defeat ^__^

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#434 - 2012-05-07 01:37:45 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Remember, if the system is bad enough, the proles can always unite and fight back, toppling the old regime; establishing themselves as the new defacto rulers. Only inaction guarantees defeat.

Whining is an action though, right?

Appeal to a ~higher power~ that can intervene on your behalf.


lawls...I guess you are right...whining is an action...but I never said taking "action" would guarantee victory...lol...

Certainly. One man's victory is another man's (his opponent's maybe) defeat ^__^


Well if the "whine" action is victorious, then it is many men's defeat... :(

James315 for CSM 8!
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#435 - 2012-05-07 04:01:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Kinda like making alt accounts to vote isnt it


oh man people still say this nonsense

hisec miner proles are hilarious


Goon lies are more funny tho

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Preceptor Stigmartyr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#436 - 2012-05-07 05:23:39 UTC
TL;DR

**4/19 **NEVER FORGET ಠ_ಠ
Mono Ethanolamine
Perkone
Caldari State
#437 - 2012-05-07 06:09:07 UTC
for fun
Gideon Tyler
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#438 - 2012-05-08 03:35:21 UTC
There was a Jita Burning? *shrugs...I never noticed.
Marcus Daven
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#439 - 2012-05-08 05:16:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Daven
I'm a carebear by trade, and i still know, which i learned quite well when i almost lost my tengu to a suicide gank, the first damn rule of EVE "don't fly what you're not prepared to lose" that alone should indicate the enviroment CCP intended, what CCP is striving to maintain, and what makes this game great. Your freedom to play EVE ends where the freedom of every other player begins. If CCP intended high sec to be Safe, you wouldn't be able to shoot on anything but rats. Last i checked, cities IRL have police, and yet murders still happen. So grow up, or GTFO, because you don't belong here.

Actually, wait, you're leaving would deprive the goons of your tears...can't have that.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#440 - 2012-05-08 06:23:55 UTC
Marcus Daven wrote:
Actually, wait, you're leaving would deprive the goons of your tears...can't have that.

There's plenty of tears, I wouldn't be overly worried about us.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?