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He outright states point blank that Data Cores are being switched into FW, he didn't say which ones, I assume the racial starship engineering cores, but he also point blank says that when the change goes live you shouldn't have any LP left on your research agents.


There has never been a more definitive statement from CCP regarding a change like that. You should listen.

CCP PHANTOM, why not some input on this topic from the Dev's side, we need some clarification from you guys on this important issue of datacore nerfing!

Neither datacore farming or PI are "isk faucets" since neither bring isk into the EVE economy. However, I agree that datacore farming is a pretty terrible mechanic since it creates huge value for those players who engage in it with no risk and barely any player input.

I would pretty much like to comment on the questions here, but that wouldn't do any good to anyone since I do not know enough about these things right now. Instead I will inform people about this thread who are qualified to comment.

I like the system just the way it is.

It took a lot of money and time to get my skill books and even longer to get the standings to use my agents , specially when i can barely fit a cruiser.
I use my cores for what they were intended for inventions. I dont get enough cores to keep up with how fast i can do invention jobs .
This is where i like it that other people can help with the supply of cores and keep the costs down.


If you dont have access to cheaper moon goo than market a lot of ships are not even worth building if you have to buy the materials off the market


Buying cores from the agent is just adding more expense , pushing smaller entities out of the t2 market.

No, that cannot be the motivation because PLEX increases CCP profits not reduce them. Every player that buys PLEX for ISK increase demand for them and creates upward pressure on their value in ISK. This also makes them more attractive to RL cash rich players who buy more of them. Since PLEX are more expensive in RL than a subscription, the net effect is that CCP make more income from the PLEX not less.

Also in the fan fest video stream it was "faction datacores" which I believe means the Faction Starship engineering core.

I don't see the difference between datacores and moongoo.

They aren't ISK and it trickles in. And to actually make some ISK on datacores you have to invest quit some time and skills.

why do you troll us by attaching meaningless blue bars to threads???

I think you miss a very large point there.

There are also those who have limited gametime. So they aren't really seeing any point in logging in and then being called to fight most of the time without having the chance to build up any assets for themselves.
For casual players it's a lot harder to maintain a PvP life style then for the almost no-lifers who practicly live in EVE or have people with even less life making the Isk for them.

Should they log in then to get aggravated by those who have loads more time to hop into (often) pointless or useless CTA's etc?

I have seen it in various alliances where people with a socalled FC tag keep calling CTA's or HD's for 2 or 3 neuts somehwhere.
They then expect that everyone drops what they are doing and form up all over the place.
God knows howmany hours later the CTA or HD drops and most of the time it was just another pointless exercise.

The no-lifer can easy continue then with his stuff whereas the casual player most often has to log off during the fleet or right after. No making Isk to support the pvp life the alliance cries about.

Now the uproar comes alive that there are many ways to make Isk.
True enough, but let's just not factor in that those too need time plus you often need another character to do it.
This then requires another account or you need to train / purchase another character for it.

So let's invest even more money / Isk. But not all can do the money making on the alt while the main is huddling around after some e-peen FC who just loves the attention of the group straddling after him.

The few Isk someone can make from Datacores is hardly worth while to mention. Simply because they invested time and Isk into getting the standings and the skills up to par to make some Isk on datacore sales.

If CCP in their infinite wisdom is gonna do yet another nerf in favour of certain play styles then please cast away the word Sandbox.

I spent alot of time to raise the standing for the RnD corps/agents, not to mention several million sp to max out the datacore gain. I'm fine with the change as long as CCP transfers RnD related skills to the free SP pool.