Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Since wormhole stabilizers are NOT A GOOD IDEA to fix WH collapsing problems( making too dificult for some systems to get attacked, like some systems with 40 caps taking weeks to get attacked), as the example from CSM in the fanfest...:

I have some ideas related to WH mechanics:

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1- When a WH reach the mass limit or the time limit, put them on "collapsing state" for a short time(10 seconds), while in this state ships can pass trough it but will have their warp core heavily polarized (So Attackers will have a huge risk to enter, since there will be no way back). And ships would have a small chance to go to the correct side of it before the colapse.

2- After this short time the WH would then stop allowing ships to pass for another short time (about 30 seconds) because the connection to the other side is already cut and the space tread is returning to normal (The Eden gate is stuck in this phase). Then it is finally destroyed. also WH bumps every ship in a 7 KM radius in the moment of the collapse. (Since it slings the space tread).

3- Mass Changing Rigs, and Mass changing warfare link. that increases or decreases the mass of the ship. ( BS should keep not entering C1 and Captals should keep not entering c4)

4- Make Warp core stabilizers tec II prevents polarization by WH crossing.

No, but I would possibly say yes to a timer for Wormholes

why not a rig that lowers the mass-damage a ship does to wormholes (not negating it) for maybe a speed-decrease or soem other detriment. that way you can get more ships through a wormhole, but tehy wont all be at 100%

why not just ban the construction of capital class ships in worm holes... if you want something capital class in a wormhole you have to move it in using a wormhole.

In regards to all the caps already in wormholes... give ample warning and then allow players to desiginate a valid system for that ship to be moved to once the change goes into affect.

If for example they have a static low sec entrance and want to move it back in they could use that (baring mass issues) to then move it back in.

Wormhole I thought was supposed to be about smaller ship combat on a limited scale. Not how much a corp or alliance can turtle themselves in.

I always felt that the T3 should rule in wormholes.

Disclamier:yes i have never lived there, but considering what I have heard about it, removing caps from the equation seems to be the only valid solution... and it makes worm holes less like null sec and give CCP a place to put in new ships that would be cap like in nature but work for more mobile wormhole operations.

I would recomend makeing a deployable structure that increases wh stability.

When deployed on both sides of the wh the duration and total mass would tripple.

It would also give the owning corp an accurate countdown of time and mass until it colapses.

If removed or destroyed it immediately loses everything it gained possibly immediately colapsing it.

There would be no way of increasing the single jump mass as it is what restricts what can enter the wh.

This definitely should only affect WHs which are likely to be cap heavy (ie, as previously suggested, only lvl5 & 6).

Messing with how much can pass through a WH at any given point in time with WHs lower than 5 would break the whole WH thing for small corps IMO.

EDIT: and lower level WHs are, at the moment, good endgame content for very small corps. It would be a real shame to ruin that.

I'm going with no. If anything I want to see wormhole de-stabilizers. They should be harder to navigate than they are now with a higher risk of dying in a deathly ball of doom. I'd like it to be really possible to be completely stuck in one of these with only suicide as your way out. Going into a wormhole should be scarier than trying to jump a freighter through a gate-camp.

I had thought off a high risk high resource cost idea off building "wormhole gates"

1st
These station must be built on both ends of a wh and will take along time to come online, meaning that if the wh collapse b4 the station's are online the station's and all the money put into them are lost,

2nd
these station use POS fuel, reason for useing fuel is that if you run out off fuel power loss to the station would cause the wh to collapse takeing with it the station itself , so yet again these station are resource monster's

3rd
as the station takes along time to come online an invadeing force can still be beaten off but the station can take a a small beating in its onlineing phase but repping ships to help its tank would be advisable

4th
dureing the onlineing phase you will have unlimited wh use to make it even for an invadeing force but once online should have a limit that if over used to much with little fuel coul cause an overload an collapse

5th
It sould also be possible to place turrets in orbit around a wormhole gate (very limited amount)

and finaly
destruction off one side of a wormhole gate will result in the destruction off the other side


the idea to creat your own WH empire in my mind is cool

Yes, we cant get rid of all difficulties, WH MUST have them... And it must be hard to get to HI-SEC... Also NOW wormholes are too predictable... one thing that i would suggest is to Remove the statics entrances... then we got something hard...

Is it directed to me? My corp actualy holds a C3, and we have other friend corps on it, so,
1 - I live in WH,
2 - I'm not imposing anything, in a debate we trow ideas and discuss them, so some thing good can come out of it.
3 - My corp count more then 100 and we live happy there! But if there are something good that could be add to ower game, why not?

And, ok, Mass rigs are BAD ideas if they allow BS to enter C1 and caps to enter C4, you are right about it. I'm putting a note on it. Thx