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A Question to NPC whinebears regarding your botting hyperbole
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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#1 - 2012-03-23 13:56:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
What are you going to whine about now it turns out the vast majority of botting occurs in highsec?

http://bit.ly/GQp2pQ
(yeah I'm sure there are better pictures)

From what I can read:

The Forge: 24% (hello CNR & Market bots)
The Citadel: 16% (CNR bots)
Lonetrek: 15%

Which is a total of 55% of all botting happening in Caldari highsec alone.

The entirity of nullsec combined seems to be a single digit percentage.

Or, tl;dr - its your highsec buddies doing all the botting.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#2 - 2012-03-23 14:00:20 UTC
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#3 - 2012-03-23 14:05:20 UTC
adam smash wrote:
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...


When the data doesn't fit your theory, CONSPIRACY!

I liked your post because you're an example of the problem

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-03-23 14:05:40 UTC
adam smash wrote:
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...

So you somehow think dots add something to your post. Sense maybe? Sorry to break it to you, but they do not.

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For None of the Above.

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Di Mulle
#5 - 2012-03-23 14:08:31 UTC
Which presentation this data comes from ?

If you look into it, a lot of "widely known" 0.0 botting regions appears as almost bot free... Roll

Hehe...
<<Insert some waste of screen space here>>
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#6 - 2012-03-23 14:12:09 UTC
Red Templar wrote:
adam smash wrote:
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...

So you somehow think dots add something to your post. Sense maybe? Sorry to break it to you, but they do not.


They are called an "ellipsis"

I have them to slow down the reading so the OP can understand what is being said.

so yes my dots add something... a pause.



Also conspiracy guy... unless they just banned EVERY bot in the game...
The chart is indeed not correct, because every bot was not banned... (and I am going to say... if they knew about a bot they banned it) So they do not know about every bot... so that would kinda be like drawing a pie graph of the pop of each state... yet not knowing how many are really in each state...
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#7 - 2012-03-23 14:12:45 UTC
Di Mulle wrote:
Which presentation this data comes from ?

If you look into it, a lot of "widely known" 0.0 botting regions appears as almost bot free... Roll

Hehe...


I tried to catch a bot for three days until it started moaning and laughing at me in local.

Turns out carebears are gonna bear and a neut entering local makes them POS up in much the same way a bot would do.

This, IMO, is why people think it's all bots.

If you go on certain websites and look at the bots for sale, you will notice they are nearly all mining or mission bots, not ratting bots.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#8 - 2012-03-23 14:14:02 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Red Templar wrote:
adam smash wrote:
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...

So you somehow think dots add something to your post. Sense maybe? Sorry to break it to you, but they do not.


They are called an "ellipsis"


That's not what that word means.

Trying to look smart is backfiring

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#9 - 2012-03-23 14:17:27 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Also conspiracy guy... unless they just banned EVERY bot in the game...
The chart is indeed not correct, because every bot was not banned... (and I am going to say... if they knew about a bot they banned it) So they do not know about every bot... so that would kinda be like drawing a pie graph of the pop of each state... yet not knowing how many are really in each state...


You need to give evidence as to how the banning of thousands is not a statistically relevant sample, with a clear and documented bias.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-23 14:20:27 UTC
adam smash wrote:
Red Templar wrote:
adam smash wrote:
So you somehow think that

1 that is honest... something you can hardly read.
2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

Also see 1...

So you somehow think dots add something to your post. Sense maybe? Sorry to break it to you, but they do not.


They are called an "ellipsis"

I have them to slow down the reading so the OP can understand what is being said.

so yes my dots add something... a pause.

So you just suck at explaining what you are trying to say, and have to put pauses, in order for people to understand what you are trying to say.
Gotcha.

Still makes no sense though.Even with pauses. maybe try something else? Like explaining what you think and why?

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#11 - 2012-03-23 14:20:37 UTC
Can I please see a chart which compares people in region and percentage of bots in that region?

Also how is it possible to be sure those percentages in your pie chart are correct? Because if it's identified bots then those are banned and effectivly putting all numbers in that chart to zero.

Also please show me next to that the chart which indicates howmuch bots "earn" per region they do their work in.
For me personally it doesn't matter if they make 100 ISK per hour or 100 mill per hour. Bot is bot.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-23 14:30:11 UTC
Who the hell cares who's doing it... Just make em go away. What is this null v. high sec crap?
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-23 14:44:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
adam smash wrote:

2 um... forge... jita... spam/market bots no ****...

more like Osmon

mission botting is huge but receives very little attention - maybe because mission runners are afraid of being looked down upon the way miners are once it becomes public knowledge that their occupation can easily be automated, maybe because mission bots spend most times in their own deadspace pockets and are thus less visible than ratting or mining bots or maybe because they don't compete directly with players for limited resources.

in contrast everything we heard from ccp about market bots so far implies that they receive far more attention than the numbers of detected bots would warrant.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#14 - 2012-03-23 14:46:54 UTC
Kattshiro wrote:
Who the hell cares who's doing it... Just make em go away. What is this null v. high sec crap?


Every time someone wants to take the toys away from highsec carebears (120mil per hour incursions, or whatever) the NPC corp whine alts badpost the same rhetoric; there's no risk in nullsec because it's all bots RAR ARAR ARARAR RMT raRARARAR

I'm pointing out they're idiots.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-03-23 14:48:56 UTC
adam smash wrote:




They are called an "ellipsis"

I have them to slow down the reading so the OP can understand what is being said.

so yes my dots add something... a pause.


The Grammar Nutzi party is displeased at your improper use of ellipsis. Ellipsis are used before or after a sentence to indicate something previous has been said or there is more left to be said that for whatever reason, was left out. Basically, you use it to remove stuff.

Example:

Full phrase "When I am alone I will pretend I am a super hero"

Ellipsis before: "...I will pretend I am a super hero."

Ellipsis after: "When I am alone..."

You are using ellipsis instead of a comma. Commas are meant to create pauses in a sentence, not ellipsis. They are also meant to be used for combining two incomplete sentences together, to a limited extent. For this heinous violation of grammar, the Grammar Nutzi party will now have you taken away by the SS (Spell Smart).

Grammatik Hiel!

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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-23 14:51:34 UTC
I lol'd hard. OP is trolling hard and win, win, winning. Lol
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-03-23 14:57:36 UTC
Not sure what your getting at, botting is bad regardless of where it happens. And while I personally disagree with the sentiment that null is particularly safer than high, bots don't seem to be a part of the reasoning behind those that do.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-03-23 15:08:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
lol 75% of botting officially occurs in highsec
and they want to make it safer

- The Forge
- The Citadel
- Lonetrek
- Domain (?)
- Sinq Laison
- Everyshore
- Fade (lol)
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-03-23 15:12:05 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
lol 75% of botting officially occurs in highsec
and they want to make it safer

well thats because majority of players (not sure about percentage) are in high-sec. So no surprise there.

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-23 15:15:19 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
What are you going to whine about now it turns out the vast majority of botting occurs in highsec?
.


Its botting they know about...I get the impression they don't know about all if it, the majority of it.

Its also quite funny how they made some jokes about multiboxing yet seem completely oblivious to the fact that some of the multiboxing tools are botting tools and completely break the EULA. You can see these dudes all the time running incursions and mining.
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