Crime & Punishment

Because almost all nullseccers have multiple highsec toons to pay our pvp bills, since isk making ratio between null and high is way out of wack and you can make ALOT more running highsec incursions that anything you can do in nullsec(barring the occasional lucky streak of 4-5 8/10 or higher plexes in a day).

I said nothing about 'fair'. I'm describing why 'warping out' after a Tornado gank is a perfectly rational thing to do.
Last I checked, it is still perfectly legal, so, your claims of finding 'ganker tears' only make you look particularly unintelligent.

I was just shooting down a stupid reactive carebear idea. "LOL, I know! Make it so they cannot warp out after a gank! That will fix it!" When really, there is nothing here to fix....

It might surprise a bonehead like yourself, but given a choice, I'd prefer to warp off! Its better than having to sit there locked down by Concord for 15 seconds, while an interceptor closes in to snag my pod. Because I prefer not to be podded.

Another news flash: I also prefer to be able to keep my mods, rather than let a random Orca or frigate steal them from me. Not really 'scared' of it as you claim. At this moment, I've got somewhere between 110 and 120 T2 Tornados fit and ready to gank in 5 different ice systems. I don't even count the T2 Catalysts.

But I'd rather not allow carebears to be able to rationalize "Well, we lost two Mackinaws and a Hulk, but at least we got to take his T2 Howitzers and Gyrostabs!"

This is reasonable. Could you post your complete pod fit?

Or, don't be a tard, make some friends, and one of you will be in a ship to point the hostile

Great poorly worded poorly argued side track. I don't think were talking about fair at all and the last time I checked losing your ship without killing the other is a risk. Traveling in highsec as an outlaw is a risk. Being shipless in a pod in highsec is an even bigger risk. So don't tell me their are no risks until you've at least tried it several times.

If you're a bitter miner that's tired of being ganked then pay attention to the game and you won't get ganked its that simple.

I find this a bit odd.
I take this Alt on screaming joyrides through lo- and nul-sec regularly; sometimes going more than 100 hops deep. This is a low-skilled alt, and frankly, I suk at PvP, but that doesn't stop me, and I beat large and generally well-respected corp camps routinely. Of course, I die a lot too, but hey!, what's the game without the risk?

If I, with my massive n00bly powers, can make a successful run through Syndicate, Goon, and TEST alliance space, taunting in local the whole way, all in one shot, then surely others can find their way in?

Turn that into multiple posts here in this thread, the more posts/likes this thread gets the higher the likelihood of CCP responding to us.

Again I will reiterate what I said in my previous post. YOU ARE THE MINORITY. Yes, you null secers, you pirates, you griefers. You are the smallest portion of the Eve Online population. The reason you are the minority is your own fault. You blockade nullsec and hide behind bubble camps to keep anyone out. Sitting hours on end waiting for a single target so you can 10 v 1 them, and act like hardasses because of it.
The GM's are forced to place rules on certain aspects because of the complete and utter asshattery that you guys come up with to grief people who try to opt out of PvP or just don't want to deal with the hassles of getting into low/null.

While I could care less if you suicide AFK farmers (and I wish there were more killing done) you guys end up targeting people who are trying to opt out of PvP by staying in high sec.


That being said, who is really the carebear in the game? The people who choose to PVE or the people who choose to hide behind their gang going 10 v 1, the gate campers who wait for hours to attack single targets, etc. It amuses me that the so called PvPers in this game think they are so hard core when 99.9% of the time they are in a group killing a solo target that has little to no chance of escape/taking anyone out.

Not mad at all, but by your "I'm a hard ass" attitude you fall into the "let's 10 v 1 a person and then talk ****" category.



Edit: and from looking at your kill board I am exactly correct. Your only solo kills are against haulers. GG.

On TQ:
Ganked a covetor in 0.5 in an oracle, warped around until 15 minute GCC ran out, left system
Re-entered system, concord didn't pursue or attack.

Carebear: -1 Covetor
Me: No loss
Exploit? TBD I suppose.