EVE General Discussion

Hi,

Yes, this happened because of a thing that I did. We're looking at our options right now, but there are some other things I have to sort out first today. We'll get back to you!

-Greyscale

PS My player account owned both blueprints, I understand your pain.

This deletion fiasco is genuinely Upsetting to the point of wondering whether I should continue investing my time in EVE. (cue "can I have your stuff")

Threads like this make me die a little on the inside. Incase all of you raging nutjobs have forgotten, EVE IS A GAME. a f*cking game!! Yea, maybe just blindly deleting a bunch of "Unused" items wasn't the smartest way of handling things, but ffs you are all having a b*tch fit like they stole your house and car keys. Seriously. gtfo of your basement and go enjoy REAL LIFE. Then come back, and you will realize that those pixels aren't really that big of a deal...if your UNUSABLE eve items mean that much to you,you might need to re-evaluate your life...

A concerned citizen of REAL LIFE.

Ok, so.

Bettik and I have been running a cleanup programme on our data over the last six months or so. We cleaned out a lot of internal crud in our data revisioning system before Christmas, Bettik reviewed every type in the game over the holidays to make sure the "published" flag was set correctly in all of them (this governs what's eligible for autolinking and contracts), and in January I went over the same data to try and clean out all the obsolete types sitting around in our system.

The criteria was basically that anything that should never have been legitimately in player possession, wasn't a current testing/GM tool, and wasn't likely to be made available in the immediate future, was flagged for deletion. We ended up deleting 1031 types, out of a total of 11430.

Out of these ~1k types, there are nine that I'm now looking at as candidates for restoration: the four mines, their blueprints, and obviously the Mimir blueprint. The Mimir was a straight-up mistake; the mines I'd flagged for deletion based on the (mistaken) assumption that we'd removed the actual mines themselves years ago and only the blueprints were in circulation, and it seems that when you delete a type, it also (sensibly, in retrospect) deletes the type's blueprint.

The good news is that when we do this sort of delete, the server keeps track of the deleted items for a while, and we made a copy of those data last night, so we know who owned what quantity of every deleted type. We don't have any of the information on blueprint research, so any returned blueprints will have "default" values (which I don't see as a huge problem for something that's primarily a collectors' item).

We don't do this sort of delete very often (as you can probably guess from how many types we caught in this sweep); there is a process for getting them reintroduced, but we have a few technical cobwebs to clean out of it before we can make use of it, and at this point in time I can't 100% guarantee that this will work properly. We are however actively pursuing reinstatement of the abovementioned items, and we'll keep you updated on our progress. I'm hoping to have this sorted in the next couple of weeks; normally I'd say "within a week" but fanfest next week makes all our estimates a little less predictable right now. In the meantime, contracts containing these items are likely to have issues, but otherwise things should continue to work normally.

You clearly missed the point. Restoring the items is good, but doesn't help much restoring trust in that CCP isn't going to silently baleet player assets in the future. And last I checked the whole point of forums is to voice ones opinion and concerns.
Of course I fully acknowledge it's CCP's game to do with as they pl..... oh wait :lolincarna:

But fair enough, one guy's legitimate grievance is another guy's whining I guess. yay, forums.