EVE General Discussion

I have received several apologys over the years from Staff for making such bold remarks.
You are (in essence) saying that this rare stuff we have was gained through hacking of the game, or cheating devs (Like t20, but as his player name is in a naughty word filter for the forums we cant talk about it I guess!).

How can we argue for all the other stuff to be put back in unless you actually let people know that you killed their stuff, and list all of the stuff that was removed.

It looks like your gonna just keep dodging the situtation and say that no one complained. I dare say that any more refusal to deal with this in a manner other than "I cant see" or "it was illicitly received" might mean that your not the person to deal with this issue. Telling legit players who have legit items that they somehow cheated the items out of the server is probably ignorant. It would be a bit like walking into a biker gangs bar and calling them all rapist, murders, and crackheads. There's a good chances that most of them would be innocent, and that all of them would beat you to near death.

Man up.
Make a devblog.
Inform users of items that they had removed.
Inform all users of what items types were removed.

It shouldnt be on the onus of users to compare DB changes to find out what was removed becuase your "cant see".

This is just another one of those things where you jump before thinking, and then tell us that your a dev and as we are users then tough crap.
It does matter, get off your high horse, ask for help from someone internal if you cant deal with it yourself.

I take it you never lost a sock in the dryer. I've had items vanish without a trace from my apt with no explainable reason.

EVE is Real! ™.

Greyscale Gnome's.
They're everywhere!

I would have peace with such a solution.

At the very least I just want assurance that items that have 1 or more instances owned by players will not be deleted unless they threaten the game balance. I need to be able to go to bed and wake up the next day without having to run my Asset Guard™ script to check what CCP deleted this time. (some called me paranoid for that, but obviously that script has been vindicated now)

Posted about this changes month ago here and as always majority finds out when it's too late.

Also I want back my Infested Dominix

No need. There is a list right here

Obviously the vast majority of items on that list are just test items and other assorted junk that never actually made it into the game.


Edit; By the way, Greyscale:

DEL u'Chalcopyrite'

Restore that too please. It's one of the ores from the mining related missions.

EVE is Real! ™ - Then they poofed my mines.

I forgot to mention this:

I absolutely resent the accusation, implied or otherwise, that I acquired items illicitly. I have always reported any suspect/harmful items and ran any weird items past CCP to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong, and I'm sure a number of colleagues will vouch for my integrity when it comes to that.

I insist on getting capital implant back. and it's also false that that was the only such implant. Remove the dogma effects for all I care. Don't delete stuff I bought or was given fair and square, or at least compensate me for the loss of unique collectibles.

I can understand how going through a large list of items, how rare non-market items could be marked for deletion. I can also see how it could have made it to sisi before a problem was seen.

You said that deleting items this way creates a log. Then why did no one check the log when this hit the test server? It seems to be a reasonable precaution. They would have seen all the deletions there. If you delete a ton of items you never thought were in game, that should throw a flag that perhaps further investigation is needed.

But still, I can understand how this happened. As long as you don't take too long restoring these items its not that bad. Just learn from it, and in the future if you delete item types, check whats actually being delete before it goes live.