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EVE Online: Crucible 1.5 Issues

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Daedalus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#701 - 2012-03-15 18:22:36 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Inane ramblings...

Aiming for the coveted FIOTM (Forum Idiot Of The Month) price I see?
Jaden Plymoth
Iron Havok
#702 - 2012-03-15 18:26:13 UTC
Daedalus II wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
Inane ramblings...

Aiming for the coveted FIOTM (Forum Idiot Of The Month) price I see?

No kidding. If you don't have a direct problem that you need advice about, or you aren't trying to work towards fixing the problem and helping to fix all the issues that have caused players to lose game time, then go blow steam off somewhere else. Its morons like you that cause progress to stall out by getting in the way. (Directed at revenwings not Daedalus)
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#703 - 2012-03-15 18:49:00 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
im sorry, that post is directed to people who were bruised with this Lulzible 1.5 update, not to corporate ass kisser wannabe DEVs like you lol
Travis Immortalis
Immortalis Systems
#704 - 2012-03-15 19:08:03 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
im sorry, that post is directed to people who were bruised with this Lulzible 1.5 update, not for corporate ass kisser wannabe DEVs like you couple lol

They're not corporate ass-kissers, they're just people who have an ounce of reason in their heads…unlike you. While I have to agree that CCP should probably have done more QA testing on this release than they did, it is no reason to raise such a stink as you have done (and yes, pretty much just making a fool of yourself). From looking at your kill/loss history in-game, I really don't understand what you're getting so bent out-of-shape over…do you really want to go back to losing fail-fit ships so badly?

Anyway…on to some more worthwhile information, that is actually related to the TOPIC of this thread.

Devs, I'm not having the login issues that are so frequently stated above, and I understand that those issues are your top priority right now. But, I have discerned a little more information on the performance spikes that I described earlier. It appears to somehow be related to Internet Explorer, perhaps version 9, and perhaps the 64-bit edition (since that is what I'm using). I've noticed that besides the spikes that occur in EVE, if I am running EVE while I also have IE open, I see spikes in IE as well (just as severe as the ones in EVE, but FAR more frequently than the rate of occurance in EVE). These performance spikes do NOT correlate with CPU usage, or RAM consumption (ie., when a spike in EVE or IE is observed, there is no spike seen in the CPU usage or RAM consumption…hardware utilization remains normal).
Aside from that, I have also observed a minor graphical issue. Cargo containers both appear and disappear in a far more "flashy" fashion than they did before. I think they may have let their ego get the better of them, or they are just starved for attention. Either way, please put them back in their place, CCP. Blink

Thanks for all your hard work, I know patch fiascos like this are very stressful. Just keep breathing, keep working at it, and it will get sorted out eventually. Good luck!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#705 - 2012-03-15 19:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
forgot to add the "kisses CCP xoxo with love <3" in there lol, not sure if ure getting promoted son, im dissapoint!
Wizard UP
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#706 - 2012-03-15 19:20:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Grossvogel
(Для постов на русском у нас есть отдельный раздел -- ISD Grossvogel)
Freakazette
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#707 - 2012-03-15 19:29:44 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
shitstorm


Wow. Chill out, take a breath, and relax. The EULA covers CCP, so there's nothing to go for there. You've been spamming the boards, but it won't help you. CCP is doing all they can to fix all the issues people are having. They're working on it. But, as several people in this thread have pointed out, it doesn't take 10 minutes to debug software and release a new fix.

Also, just because you say something is going "viral" doesn't mean it is. Going viral is not really something people decide for things to be, it's something that happens.

Your attempt to take apart the EULA failed, too bad. Your attempt to yell just makes you look like an impatient boy.
I understand that you're annoyed as **** since you can't play. But really, don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Also, people not yelling/screaming/stomping their feet? They're not "ass kissers", it's just the whole "getting mad won't help" thing. Screaming at customer support will just make the CS annoyed with you. Yes, this is CCP's (as a corporation) fault, but go about it in a mature manner.

TL;DR: Stop being an impatient whiny **** and grow up. HTFU.

Fakeedit: *kisses CCP xoxo with love <3*
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#708 - 2012-03-15 19:34:39 UTC
Now if they only changed that EULA sentence to:
"CCP shall not be responsible in any way for ITS OWN INABILITY TO TEST AND MAKE UPGRADES WORK BEFORE RELEASE and not letting clients access the System."

Wouldnt that make you happy?

keep playing corporate ass kisser, i think your almost getting promoted lol
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#709 - 2012-03-15 19:37:04 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Freakazette wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
shitstorm


Wow. Chill out, take a breath, and relax. The EULA covers CCP, so there's nothing to go for there. You've been spamming the boards, but it won't help you. CCP is doing all they can to fix all the issues people are having. They're working on it. But, as several people in this thread have pointed out, it doesn't take 10 minutes to debug software and release a new fix.

Also, just because you say something is going "viral" doesn't mean it is. Going viral is not really something people decide for things to be, it's something that happens.

Your attempt to take apart the EULA failed, too bad. Your attempt to yell just makes you look like an impatient boy.
I understand that you're annoyed as **** since you can't play. But really, don't you have anything better to do with your time?

Also, people not yelling/screaming/stomping their feet? They're not "ass kissers", it's just the whole "getting mad won't help" thing. Screaming at customer support will just make the CS annoyed with you. Yes, this is CCP's (as a corporation) fault, but go about it in a mature manner.

TL;DR: Stop being an impatient whiny **** and grow up. HTFU.

Fakeedit: *kisses CCP xoxo with love <3*



my client is already fixed and running sweety, my post is for the people who were bruised and deprived of service they paid for. not for conformist reactionaries like you
Travis Immortalis
Immortalis Systems
#710 - 2012-03-15 19:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Travis Immortalis
raven666wings wrote:
((insert "spoiled brat" tantrum and childlike attempts at Trolling here))

…where's the "block" button?

EDIT: Nevermind, found it! Lol
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#711 - 2012-03-15 19:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
EDIT

"If you fail to install the new release when required, CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System"

Now if they only changed that EULA sentence to:
"CCP shall not be responsible in any way for ITS OWN INABILITY TO TEST AND MAKE UPGRADES WORK BEFORE RELEASE and not letting clients access the System."

Wouldnt that make you happy?

keep playing corporate ass kisser, i think your almost getting promoted lol
HaleyBerries
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#712 - 2012-03-15 19:52:07 UTC
Holy **** ccp what the hell did you do??????????

Eve is causing bluescreens, runs like crap when my computer will run it. Bluescreens ONLY occur when Im running eve, error coming back is one to do with code, not hardware, I forgot to write it down so next time i catch it Ill note it and edit here accordingly with the actual error. I run much more demanding programs on this computer without a SINGLE issue, but the series of patchs lately have gone from eve running like crap to it causing bluescreens.

Comp details:

Windows XP Pro SP3
AMD Athelon II x64
4g ram
Ati Radeon HD 4350

I have paid on my credit card for 3 accounts for 2.5 yrs, sometimes paying my 4th account with the same credit card. I understand patch issues happen but when it screws with my operating system cause its that poorly written, causing bluescreens, its enough to make me consider leaving game till you guys get your act together as Eve is NOT worth major damage to my computer.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#713 - 2012-03-15 19:56:27 UTC
If you don't like not being able to play what you paid for, find another game. Hold CCP accountable.

I suspect this cockup is already going to cost them a bit of money in subscriptions. The only way people learn is from feeling consequences of stupid actions, and releasing this was really, really stupid.

But then, if you look at what they have been doing the last month, it's not a surprise.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Jaden Plymoth
Iron Havok
#714 - 2012-03-15 19:56:39 UTC
Seriously dude, getting upset about it isn't going to get you anywhere. If you could possibly look more like a child right now I don't know how. I haven't really been able to play the game for the last 3 days, and instead of getting all pissy about it and throwing a ***** fit, I put my energies towards figuring out where exactly the problem on my client was, and after I figured out what was causing my own problems, I solved it. If your client is working, then you have no reason to be upset. Yes, other people still can't play, and thats what we, the cool headed problem solvers not working for CCP, are still here watching this thread and still trying to help, despite the fact that some of us have already got our clients back up and running.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#715 - 2012-03-15 20:00:17 UTC
Endless Delirium wrote:
Jaden Plymoth wrote:

Yes its frustrating, but with new things come bugs. And CCP is doing everything they can to fix multiple problems that cropped up. Writing code is far more tedious than many of us come to realize and simple mistakes can be made and not caught until after release. Lay off the devs, they're doing what they can.


Heh... I'm a software developer myself and I know quite well how tedious and difficult is to write code. However, this kind of mistake should never make it pass QA. Stuff like special chars in the path of the installation or 'misplacing' the settings are things that should be checked for each and any release.

To be honest, this kind of 'mistake' would get people fired at the company I'm working for. I'm not saying this should happen here, but the fact those problems show up every patch or three is not normal either.
Jaden Plymoth
Iron Havok
#716 - 2012-03-15 20:04:26 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Endless Delirium wrote:
Jaden Plymoth wrote:

Yes its frustrating, but with new things come bugs. And CCP is doing everything they can to fix multiple problems that cropped up. Writing code is far more tedious than many of us come to realize and simple mistakes can be made and not caught until after release. Lay off the devs, they're doing what they can.


Heh... I'm a software developer myself and I know quite well how tedious and difficult is to write code. However, this kind of mistake should never make it pass QA. Stuff like special chars in the path of the installation or 'misplacing' the settings are things that should be checked for each and any release.

To be honest, this kind of 'mistake' would get people fired at the company I'm working for. I'm not saying this should happen here, but the fact those problems show up every patch or three is not normal either.



Did I say anywhere in there that it was not CCPs fault? No? I didn't think so.
korondipeter
Meus Frater Custodis
#717 - 2012-03-15 20:11:36 UTC
[quote=CCP Cascade][quote=korondipeter
However launcher still not working for me. Still 16-bit complain
[/quote

Can you try downloading this http://cdn1.eveonline.com/350962/EVEOnlineLauncherInstaller.exe and applying that to the client where you have a broken Launcher

Does that enable you to start the Launcher?[/quote

Started today with \bin\ExeFile.exe , it asked about an update. downloaded it
Eve online Launcher v1.09 started, after about an hour watching the progress bar of 1/3: Creating EVE_Online_350962-351477.patch going from 0% to 25% then back to 0%, i have given up

Also tried this one
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/350962/EVEOnlineLauncherInstaller.exe, seams the same v1.09 launcher that is looping at 25%

Now is really unplayable, even \bin\ExeFile.exe is nocure since it asks about the update, ending up in the loop. Will try a reboot and run again


PS
Just an observation..
I do not know what you have done to the launcher files, i have checked today the launcher.exe and launcher_console.exe. The header in hexa now is 4D5A which is usually a classical exe. Back when the launcher was not working i am sure that it was something else in the header because i have checked it.
Dragooneye Deschain
IIII Inc.
#718 - 2012-03-15 20:16:59 UTC
Well been having the a different launcher issue from what everyone seems to be having but here goes nothing at trying to get it resolved.

I totally reinstalled eve yesterday from manual download, but still could not get launcher to run. I can get eve to run by going through the BIN folder and launching the EveFile.exe located there and by repairing it every time I start eve again.

This morning I was messing around and just deleted the Launcher file out of eve directory and hit the repair.exe to see what would happen. Repair.exe repaired eve by putting the launcher folder back in and when clicking on the shortcut from my desktop it launched and worked fine.

Logged in and then logged out and closed the launcher and tried to restart it again and got this error message in an exception box.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "launcher.py", line 36, in i module>
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 128, in StartLauncher
File "lib\initialization.pyc", line 60, in InitInfo
File "lib\info.pyc", line 136, in Setup
File "lib\info.pyc", line 128, in Get
File "lib\info.pyc", line 115, in GetLauncherInfoFunc
File "lib\info.pyc", line 103, in GetLauncherInfo
File "lib\info.pyc", line 71, in GetInfoFromUrl
File "lib\info.pyc", line 53, in ParseHttpHeaderDate
File "_strptime.pyc", line 454, in _strptime_time
File "_strptime.pyc", line 322, in _strptime
TypeError: expected string or buffer
Locals by frame, innermost last:
Frame i module> in launcher.py at line 47:
NoInternetError j i class 'lib.exceptions.NoInternetError'>
ServerUnreachableException j i class 'lib.exceptions.ServerUnreachableException'>
Shutdown j i function Shutdown at 0x03D95830>
StartLauncher j i function StartLauncher at 0x040CCEF0>
__builtins__ j i module '__builtin__' (built-in)>
__doc__ j '\n This is the entry point into the launcher, it handles setting up the working\n directory, logging and finally importing and starting the laucher within a\n log-proof try/exeception clause so we can catch almost any exception and display\n an error message.\n'
__name__ j '__main__'
__package__ j None
exc_plus j i function exc_plus at 0x03C4B670>
lib j i module 'lib' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\lib\__init__.pyc'>
localization j i module 'localization' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\localization\__init__.pyc'>
os j i module 'os' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\os.pyc'>
socket j i module 'socket' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\socket.pyc'>
sys j i module 'sys' (built-in)>
wx j i module 'wx' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\wx\__init__.pyc'>
zipextimporter j i module 'zipextimporter' from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\EVE\launcher\library.zip\zipextimporter.pyc'>
Frame StartLauncher in lib\initialization.pyc at line 131:
app j i wx._core.App; proxy of i Swig Object of type 'wxPyApp *' at 0x1fc47e0> >
folder j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE'
Frame InitInfo in lib\initialization.pyc at line 60:
cacheDir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
folder j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE'
server j 'TQ'
Frame Setup in lib\info.pyc at line 136:
cachedir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
server j 'TQ'
Frame Get in lib\info.pyc at line 128:
cachedir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
path j ''
server j 'TQ'
Frame GetLauncherInfoFunc in lib\info.pyc at line 115:
cachedir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
server j 'TQ'
Frame GetLauncherInfo in lib\info.pyc at line 103:
cachedir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
infoPath j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache\\win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt'
server j 'TQ'
url j 'http://client.eveonline.com/patches/win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt'
Frame GetInfoFromUrl in lib\info.pyc at line 71:
http_socket j i addinfourl at 70491712 whose fp j i socket._fileobject object at 0x04334BF0>>
infoDir j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache'
infoPath j u'C:\\Program Files (x86)\\CCP\\EVE\\launcher\\cache\\win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt'
lastModHeader j None
url j 'http://client.eveonline.com/patches/win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt'
Frame ParseHttpHeaderDate in lib\info.pyc at line 53:
dateText j None
Frame _strptime_time in _strptime.pyc at line 454:
data_string j None
format j '%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %Z'
Frame _strptime in _strptime.pyc at line 322:
data_string j None
format j '%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %Z'
format_regex j i _sre.SRE_Pattern object at 0x0437FB38>
locale_time j i _strptime.LocaleTime object at 0x04340030>


So I went back in deleted the launcher folder again and ran repair.exe and the launcher worked again, until it was shut down. Though if I go back into the directory delete the launcher folder and run repair.exe the launcher will start back up.

Code above Replaced all ( > ) with ( i ) and all ( = ) with ( j )
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#719 - 2012-03-15 20:26:29 UTC
HaleyBerries wrote:
....
Eve is causing bluescreens, runs like crap when my computer will run it. Bluescreens ONLY occur when Im running eve, error coming back is one to do with code, not hardware,....

Comp details:

Windows XP Pro SP3
AMD Athelon II x64
4g ram
Ati Radeon HD 4350

....
Same here. The only difference being the video card:

Windows XP Pro SP3
AMD Athlon II x4 640
4 Gb ram
Nvidia GeForce 430 GT (1Gb DDR3)

Mind you, as opposed to a lot of unfortunate people the updating itself (including the installation and running of the new launcher) went without any problems. I know, I'm a lucky bastard...Smile

However, since the implementation of Crucible 1.5 running EvE for a prolonged period of time without a BSOD occurring, now that is something entirely different...Sad

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Jaden Plymoth
Iron Havok
#720 - 2012-03-15 20:28:14 UTC
Dragooneye, while you at least have a way of playing the game, have you tried deleting everything in the 'cache' folder inside the launcher folder? I haven't had your problem but I'm noticing that the files in that folder don't like to resync with CCP's servers.