EVE General Discussion

You get ganked, you rage, you "I quit!" because you have the right to kill the guy who robbed you of your precious hulk, but lack the volition/skills/stones to exact revenge.

with a high sec transferable kill rights system you sort out the bounties system introducing a real bounty hunter role, bring PvP to high sec in a very real form and give miners an avenue for making miner ganking a less than simple mechanics calculation. (read as real hidden risk for the ganker, do I really want to hit this guy? sounds exciting doesn't it?)

Honestly, after seeing this suggestion in another thread and thinking about it I can't see how anyone would have a problem with it.

Is there some way of exploiting this that I'm missing?

TL;DR
high sec ganks transferable kill rights system, what's wrong with this picture? teach me.

For PvP and like to encourage more of it?

Want to validate a potential Career path in EvE with new income potential that is ideally designed as simply a transferance of ISK from one pilot to another?

Actually like situations where ships shoot back and "really" improve your KB resume?

You agree that pilots should adapt to challenging situations in EvE where acceptance of risk is an everyday seperator of those getting ahead on the curve?

Or simply want to make EvE less boring?

Vote: Bounty Hunting for CSM7.

(I do hope the OP was associating this to his thread, especially in regards to Malcanis' work linked within it. If not it might help to expand on the details for those interested or unaware.)

The idea is good but the implementation is tricky, since it's hard to build away the same kind of flaws that exist in the current bounty system (where your intended victim fleeces you further by picking up the cash you offer for his death).

Grumpy cites some of the problems I could think of here (I can't find the original thread where we discussed it).

I strongly support this.
I wonder how those ganker "pvp bozos" will QQ when they will die to pro bounty hunters.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CCP this is AWESOME idea.

IT doesn't, you're just opening another exploit mechanic for the gazillions of high sec rats that already exploit each and every single one and manage to always cry enough to not be banned.
Wardec transfer while in space at jita undock everyone?
Targeting speed under 0.8 everyone?
Bump at undocks everyone?
2 man corp that becomes a 20man +50 neutral rep/jam alts, WHILE in space at jita undock or gates everyone?

The list can go on.

So yes go ahead and do it, I've got a bunch of alts to do kamikaze runs and transfer rights to a real alt merc corp, just for lols, because it's so dam funny exploit game mechanic failures in a game that counts more of those than actually good ones for all players and just not a few ones.

I think transferable killing right is definitely something for CCP to look into. I imagine some sort of market where you could hire the right to kill someone. The right would be temporarily to give others a shot at it as well. And this right is then shared with the people in your gang to get past the whole RR shenanigans.

It would open up the whole bounty hunter profession. And adding diversity is always a good thing.




Stop calling them griefers. They are just a part of EVE's ecosystem, forcing clueless carebears to evolve or quit (and that's a good thing). You don't call the fox a griefer because it eats bunnies right? So what if they consider it fun to see a miner or hauler explode, both his ship as in local? It's just the fox preferring the taste of meat over carrots.

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Also you're dead-wrong about not being able to make a griefer stop. Just join a decent corp, this IS a MMO after all.

You're now talking about empire warfare I guess. Transferable killrights are totally not applicable here. Also there is hardly any fun in playing stationgames, so it's usually only done if it serves some strategic purpose or you have reason to believe it will lure out a fight. It has very little to do with 'high-sec' ganking, that's for certain. Different ball-game.

It sounds to me like you're a tad bitter about this issue, though.

There are plenty of ways for carebears to 'defend' themselves. I am not sure how ******* stupid you got to be not to be able to think up any, but most are quite obvious. I still do think transferable kill-rights would be a great idea though.

Thanks for the link to this discussion, it expanded on the lines I was already thinking about, I guess my initial thinking was targeting the "big game hunter" audience you and grumpy speak about in the thread, much harder to exploit except for of course buying your own kill rights as an added protection.

its seems as always the main issue is how you go about charging for such a service without having your intended victim pick up the reward. Although a possible solution could be if you were to buy the kill rights and be refunded for the kill, especially when you include the price of the clone replacement for the intended victim, something the genuine bounty hunter need not worry about.

Anyway this is coming seriously close to a features and ideas discussion is that way -> so I will leave it at that, still thanks again for the insight.

I'm all for transferable kill rights, so I can set up events like "The hunt for Carebear Chribba" in a controlled environment haha

You'd have to kill someone before you could be killed though. You sure you could stomach that?