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Incoming titan adjustments

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Cyaron wars
Academia RED HOT Corporation
#2101 - 2012-03-15 07:42:10 UTC
Issue here is removing titan role as it is now without replacing that role with something else. Today there is a huge gap between battleship fleets and supercapital fleets that are fielded. Capitals were filling that role once but after supercapitals appeared only carriers are ones that are fielded and only with logistics purpose. So CCP made 1+bil dreads useless. Would be nice to see some apital ship re balancing so they will take their place on battlefield against battleship fleets. Issue here is not in a titan but in variety of ships that CCP made useless up until now (remember EOS). I find CCP's approach wrong. Instead of nerfing 1 ship why don't u guys review all those ships that u made useless up until now?
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2102 - 2012-03-15 07:42:40 UTC
Andski wrote:
bl4ckL0tus wrote:
how about instead of nerfing titans that much (tracking should be enough) removing tech moons or rather spreading them acros the galaxy .. this way maybe goonies that fly only 100 mils ships tops wont cry about getting a beat from high-skilled players that used the ultimate ship. I myself wanted to fly a titan now jst got one and trained like over a year skills and now all this dream is gone cos suddenly its jst something u show to friends that come over ... whos going to pay me back for everything i invested to got to this point? Also why dont ure making some t2 dreads or something that can fight them and maybe even goons can afford from their 1k+ 2-300 of this to fight (btw i heard their fcs lacks balls and jst wants to shoot structures with their super fleet on a diff timezone then the enemy) to match others ... Also when i started this game i wanted to see jove unlock that hasnt happened so far. Also a rumour was that drone regions will be nerfed if u do this faster and tech moon spreading even big alliances will have problems getting supers so easy. Peace


Goonswarm is buying back titans. Contact me.


I've got a titan for sale if yanno what I mean.
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2103 - 2012-03-15 07:43:04 UTC
lol @ Andski ... when i wanted to buy it like alotof goons tried their scam scheme all over again ... witth their scamming leader who says hes representing players right @ ccp .. ROFL
BrokenBC
no tax's are us
#2104 - 2012-03-15 07:43:40 UTC
lroh wrote:
Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage.
Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo


Use many titans on the jita 44 undock do you?
hakkart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2105 - 2012-03-15 07:44:24 UTC
Cyaron wars wrote:
Issue here is removing titan role as it is now without replacing that role with something else. Today there is a huge gap between battleship fleets and supercapital fleets that are fielded. Capitals were filling that role once but after supercapitals appeared only carriers are ones that are fielded and only with logistics purpose. So CCP made 1+bil dreads useless. Would be nice to see some apital ship re balancing so they will take their place on battlefield against battleship fleets. Issue here is not in a titan but in variety of ships that CCP made useless up until now (remember EOS). I find CCP's approach wrong. Instead of nerfing 1 ship why don't u guys review all those ships that u made useless up until now?


Reading comprehension.

This "nerf" is just a quick fix to something that is not working as intended, a full ship rebalance will come in time, I have no doubt.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2106 - 2012-03-15 07:45:18 UTC
bl4ckL0tus wrote:
lol @ Andski ... when i wanted to buy it like alotof goons tried their scam scheme all over again ... witth their scamming leader who says hes representing players right @ ccp .. ROFL

scamming is not allowed in eve online you should petition that

ahahahahahahaha

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Cyaron wars
Academia RED HOT Corporation
#2107 - 2012-03-15 07:51:07 UTC
So my point is any side should have advantage on battlefield as it now (Numbers and technology). So you filed 1000 Drakes which can be countered by 200 Abaddons. Each side should be able to decide what it will bring for a fight - High SP+Expensive ships or less PS but en mass.
joshua boston
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#2108 - 2012-03-15 07:54:13 UTC
DEATH TO ALL CAPITAL SHIPS!!! LONG LIVE THE SUBCAPS!!!
hakkart
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2109 - 2012-03-15 07:57:26 UTC  |  Edited by: hakkart
Cyaron wars wrote:
So my point is any side should have advantage on battlefield as it now (Numbers and technology). So you filed 1000 Drakes which can be countered by 200 Abaddons. Each side should be able to decide what it will bring for a fight - High SP+Expensive ships or less PS but en mass.


You're oversimplifying it. 1000 drakes does not make a fleet. Fleet is all about composition. 1000 drakes would lose HARD to a 500-man fleet with an actual composition, with logis and dictors and recons. . And that's the way it ought to be. A titan blob, on the other hand, stands on its own with no need for support other than supercarriers, which are equally unkillable in large numbers.

Edit before someone puts words in my mouth: The 500-man fleet is mostly drakes.
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2110 - 2012-03-15 07:58:14 UTC
I'm watching cyst removal vids on youtube, someone more sober should draw an analogy between this and Titans.
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2111 - 2012-03-15 08:04:22 UTC
except cyst arent the ultimate cool thing in a videogame that others have but not use against enemies and cry in their corner
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2112 - 2012-03-15 08:06:15 UTC
bl4ckL0tus wrote:
except cyst arent the ultimate cool thing in a videogame that others have but not use against enemies and cry in their corner


feel free to return to WoW if you believe that the "ultimate cool thing in a videogame" is an entitlement to unopposed one-sided victories in every engagement

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2113 - 2012-03-15 08:07:11 UTC
Anyone, literally anyone, who mentions 'but why the scan res change a bloo boo boo why not change XL gun signature instead' doesn't actually know how the tracking formula works and why that still wouldn't stop Titan blobs blapping with impunity. (Hint: Ship signature / weapon signature is only a multiplier to tracking, not a base% chance to hit, so if you're at low traversal to one of the titans in the 50-100km lump that they form in blob (hint 2: you are) you're going to get blapped). The tracking nerf is goddamn INCONSEQUENTIAL regarding this. The scan res one is the one they needed.
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2114 - 2012-03-15 08:07:32 UTC
its a game with many ships and u can counter them u jst want to use cheap stuff to kill the game
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2115 - 2012-03-15 08:09:10 UTC
I just wanted to remind everyone in this thread that penguins are the most adorable thing ever.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2116 - 2012-03-15 08:10:04 UTC
Triskian wrote:
I just wanted to remind everyone in this thread that penguins are the most adorable thing ever.
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2117 - 2012-03-15 08:12:34 UTC
I like to pretend that the penguin's cries are the incoherent screams of the anti-nerfers.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2118 - 2012-03-15 08:13:23 UTC
bl4ckL0tus wrote:
its a game with many ships and u can counter them u jst want to use cheap stuff to kill the game


alright since you're clearly the expert on these matters tell me exactly how to counter 30 tracking titans

don't say dreads because trying to kill titans with the very ships they are designed to counter is an idea i'd expect from a toddler

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bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2119 - 2012-03-15 08:15:21 UTC
the market value of a tit worth 5 combat fitted nyx-es ... wich lets say u dont get 5 u get 3-4 u could kill them 2 much dps from fb ... insted of getting more of those u like dieing in loads of subcaps over and over againd and cry imbalance...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2120 - 2012-03-15 08:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
bl4ckL0tus wrote:
the market value of a tit worth 5 combat fitted nyx-es ... wich lets say u dont get 5 u get 3-4 u could kill them 2 much dps from fb ... insted of getting more of those u like dieing in loads of subcaps over and over againd and cry imbalance...


if you think that the only counter to a ship is an ISK equivalent in smaller ships you are pretty helpless

hmm i think i should fit estamel's ~adaptive~ invulns on a drake and i should effortlessly kill supercarriers

also the market value is so far off from the actual cost of the ship by almost two times

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