Ships & Modules

tell me more about t2 hulls being fully insured

105 pages and we've so far seen these arguments:

- but they're expensive and take forever to build and skill into
- but eve needs an end-game
- i agree that titan tracking is out of whack but GOONS
- how else is my failing alliance going to kill fleets 5-10 times as large as ours
- CCP is screwing over their veterans because everyone above an arbitrary number of skillpoints owns titans
- my titan keeps getting nerfed please stop
- there is no problem with titan tracking, i can say this objectively from the perspective of my hisec welfare incursions
- reimburse my isk and skillpoints because my 50 million ehp portable stargate with a doomsday is useless

all we need now are some sun tzu quotes, ww2 analogies and it's hi5s all around

It's funny that you think legitimate points are trolling. Also, I've no interest in battleships. I don't particularly like large hulls, and if I never have to fly anything larger than a battlecruiser, except maybe a bridging BLOPs, I couldn't be happier.

Post on your main, coward. I'm done with you.

Fun fact: I'm already in a ship with better attributes than a battleship.

In fact, i'm in 193 ships with better attributes than battleships. In about a year, I will have reached my “end game” and there will be no way of going further. Would you like to guess what I'll be able to fly by then (hint: it doesn't include any titans)? Come to think of it, I'm in 193 ships that have better attributes than titans, much less some silly battleship.

The problem here comes back to the same fundamental fact that you're trying, but failing, to work your way around: EVE has no end-game beyond what you decide for yourself. When you talk about “going further” and “better attributes”, you are incorrectly assuming there is an objective measure of those things, which is the same kind of fallacy as thinking there is an objective end-game. You need to stop thinking that way because it simply doesn't apply to EVE. It's not even a vote; what the majority thinks is irrelevant; if more people think a particular ship is their end-game then it only means exactly that: that more people think of that ship as their end-game. It does in no way mean that there is an end-game to the game itself.

If anything, if a whole lot of people think that the “biggest” ship is the best and therefore they go for that one, then it's rather a worrying sign of a whole lot of people not understanding the fundamental design principles of EVE, and it's sad to see that CCP has failed to educate these poor people properly about what the game has to offer.

As such, the whole appeal to “preserve the end-game” only manages to convey a complete failure to understand the very basics of EVE (and you'd think that people who have stuck around for long enough to get into a titan would understand those basics by now, but then again, as this thread has shown, they even have trouble with basic game mechanics, so meh…). The only thing there is for CCP to preserve is a proper balance between ship classes, and if that balancing act happens to trample all over your subjective end-game, then tough luck. If that truly offends you, just pick a new end-game. There are bajillions of them to choose from (and all of them will be adjusted by CCP at some point or another, so you might as well inoculate yourself against that right now).

I'm not sure if that was English or what, but after three readings I came up with:

1.) You think the titan nerf hurts you in some way/are a PL alt

2.) You think that tech nerfs would hurt goonswarm in some way and are feasible at the moment/are a Raiden alt.

How did the Dev post not make it clear that this is a stop-gap fix to prevent certain alliances -=cough=- from abusing a mechanic that's clearly in need of repair?

I was going to post something, but I'm not really sure what to post.

I drank a lot with some guys in TEST on tinychat and stuff.

for hakkart : no actually i`m not pl or rdn alt u jst trolling cos ure the 25 mil sp guy that wants to win eve i know...but why ure awesome fcs dont use supers on enemies and cry of imbalance since u already have them? cowards?

Doublepost wooooooooooooo

tripppples more like tribbles amirite

I almost responded to that with a thought-out argument, and then realized I was being trolled. Wouldn't say "Well played", but "Decently played" is good enough.

BTW, posting on an alt accomplishes nothing.