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Zxmagus
Delta Sqad
#2041 - 2012-03-15 03:00:35 UTC
The timing of this is perfect the forces of elite PvP are loosing on all fronts tenal, the fall of c-j they don't even have this nerf to say that's why they failed.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2042 - 2012-03-15 03:02:15 UTC
There is the block feature you know. Don't like a poster who just trolls, block them. It makes this thread far easier to read.
Titan Keeper 22
Doomheim
#2043 - 2012-03-15 03:04:24 UTC
CCP, i understand that you are trying to give favor to the starters, so called noobs(I.E. more than 50% of GoonSwarm and CFC). you have already done so by killing the end-game content out of EvE in a semi way, by making supercapitals worthless other than the ones owned by PL that are using them for ganking other supercapitals and capitals only.

now you're trying to kill end game content to an extinct.

how many people do you think will get bored of EvE after pvp'ing in battlecruisers/battleships/t3 and structure grinding for several months and have realized that that was the endgame content?

right now, you Goonswarm and CFC will surely be happy about the killing of the titan out of game, so that you can conquer sov. without the worries of titan blobbing. but do you really think in the future, will still be interested in playing EvE after playing in the same environment over and over without the possibility of going any further?

look for an example - RvB they are doing almost same thing as you all sov holding alliances including both Goonswarm/CFC, and RDN, NC., PL without structure grinding part. but how many members do you think that they've stayed there and enjoyed being active in part of their activites for longer than 1 year? 2years? i doubt that there are many. they'll most likely leave RvB and seek for another level towards end-game.(means switching from friagates to battlecruisers, batlteships, t2ships, t3 ships, or even capitals)


CCP, you are basically going backwards and ruining the game by removing of the current end-game content.

but then i slightly agree on the fact that they are becomming more available to people.(i heard the max was 37titans fielded on single grid of a battle)

but by removing them of their use by making them utterly useless? haven't heard of any game that have successed by doing this way.

just to give you a slight advice here; most successful MMO, MMORPG games have done it in an opposite way to fix the inflation of end-game content by 'adding more' end-game content
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2044 - 2012-03-15 03:07:00 UTC
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
CCP, i understand that you are trying to give favor to the starters, so called noobs(I.E. more than 50% of GoonSwarm and CFC). you have already done so by killing the end-game content out of EvE in a semi way, by making supercapitals worthless other than the ones owned by PL that are using them for ganking other supercapitals and capitals only.

now you're trying to kill end game content to an extinct.

how many people do you think will get bored of EvE after pvp'ing in battlecruisers/battleships/t3 and structure grinding for several months and have realized that that was the endgame content?

right now, you Goonswarm and CFC will surely be happy about the killing of the titan out of game, so that you can conquer sov. without the worries of titan blobbing. but do you really think in the future, will still be interested in playing EvE after playing in the same environment over and over without the possibility of going any further?

look for an example - RvB they are doing almost same thing as you all sov holding alliances including both Goonswarm/CFC, and RDN, NC., PL without structure grinding part. but how many members do you think that they've stayed there and enjoyed being active in part of their activites for longer than 1 year? 2years? i doubt that there are many. they'll most likely leave RvB and seek for another level towards end-game.(means switching from friagates to battlecruisers, batlteships, t2ships, t3 ships, or even capitals)


CCP, you are basically going backwards and ruining the game by removing of the current end-game content.

but then i slightly agree on the fact that they are becomming more available to people.(i heard the max was 37titans fielded on single grid of a battle)

but by removing them of their use by making them utterly useless? haven't heard of any game that have successed by doing this way.

just to give you a slight advice here; most successful MMO, MMORPG games have done it in an opposite way to fix the inflation of end-game content by 'adding more' end-game content


Holy **** man. I'm going to take the advice I just gave you and use it myself. To block your blabbing.
Zxmagus
Delta Sqad
#2045 - 2012-03-15 03:07:44 UTC
Balderic Lunacy wrote:
WTF is CCPs problem?

I can't believe that you have the balls and are willing to flat our admit that your just doing this cause you don't want to take the time to do it right.

Proving yet again that the apologies and " I'm gonna do better" were just bullshit and empty comments.

I think Titans need to be re-balanced, but a 90 billion isk paper weight?


Goon and friends just played you, and I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.


I will be turning off my account and personally using Greyscale as a replacement for C * nt.


I hope you at least have the rational to provide the people that spent 2 years training and 4 years building assets a buyout option.


If and when you get your head out of your ass, and actually want to improve the game let me know.


No you played your self because you couldn't keep your dik in your pants blapping small cruiser gangs in synd with titans.
Sotar Armana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2046 - 2012-03-15 03:10:17 UTC
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
CCP, i understand that you are trying to give favor to the starters, so called noobs(I.E. more than 50% of GoonSwarm and CFC). you have already done so by killing the end-game content out of EvE in a semi way, by making supercapitals worthless other than the ones owned by PL that are using them for ganking other supercapitals and capitals only.

now you're trying to kill end game content to an extinct.

how many people do you think will get bored of EvE after pvp'ing in battlecruisers/battleships/t3 and structure grinding for several months and have realized that that was the endgame content?

right now, you Goonswarm and CFC will surely be happy about the killing of the titan out of game, so that you can conquer sov. without the worries of titan blobbing. but do you really think in the future, will still be interested in playing EvE after playing in the same environment over and over without the possibility of going any further?

look for an example - RvB they are doing almost same thing as you all sov holding alliances including both Goonswarm/CFC, and RDN, NC., PL without structure grinding part. but how many members do you think that they've stayed there and enjoyed being active in part of their activites for longer than 1 year? 2years? i doubt that there are many. they'll most likely leave RvB and seek for another level towards end-game.(means switching from friagates to battlecruisers, batlteships, t2ships, t3 ships, or even capitals)


CCP, you are basically going backwards and ruining the game by removing of the current end-game content.

but then i slightly agree on the fact that they are becomming more available to people.(i heard the max was 37titans fielded on single grid of a battle)

but by removing them of their use by making them utterly useless? haven't heard of any game that have successed by doing this way.

just to give you a slight advice here; most successful MMO, MMORPG games have done it in an opposite way to fix the inflation of end-game content by 'adding more' end-game content

You removed it yourself with blapping frigates in your 60 bil isk toys.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2047 - 2012-03-15 03:16:32 UTC
just checked and my posts make up 10% of this thread

what up

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Sotar Armana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2048 - 2012-03-15 03:22:48 UTC
Andski wrote:
just checked and my posts make up 10% of this thread

what up

I am a lazy poster Sad
Balderic Lunacy
The Fifth Ace
#2049 - 2012-03-15 03:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Balderic Lunacy
Zxmagus wrote:
Balderic Lunacy wrote:
WTF is CCPs problem?
I can't believe that you have the balls and are willing to flat our admit that your just doing this cause you don't want to take the time to do it right.
Proving yet again that the apologies and " I'm gonna do better" were just bullshit and empty comments.
I think Titans need to be re-balanced, but a 90 billion isk paper weight?
Goon and friends just played you, and I have some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.
I will be turning off my account and personally using Greyscale as a replacement for C * nt.
I hope you at least have the rational to provide the people that spent 2 years training and 4 years building assets a buyout option.
If and when you get your head out of your ass, and actually want to improve the game let me know.


No you played your self because you couldn't keep your dik in your pants blapping small cruiser gangs in synd with titans.


You mean the ones that are dumb enough to fly in a straight line with a MWD on? I believe that is called natural selection.

If your referring to a gang of pilots that keep their wits and do not panic, then perhaps you should read before a quote.

I stated " I think Titans need to be re-balanced "

My complaint is not that something is being done. My complaint is that CCP is doing a half ass job of it and directly contradicting their promise to the player base.

If you do not remember then allow me to refresh you. A few months ago the DEV blogs and PR all reported that CCP understands they made a lot of rash choices / mistakes and that they did not invest enough time into the things they were doing.

Now, before the dust even settles on their peace offering of " Crucible " they pull out the same old poor planning and un-educated maneuvers. Nerf this or that, whatever, but do it properly. Do not change a major part of the game like the end ship with the comment of " This will require a reasonably significant amount of work, which we unfortunately don't have the spare resources for right now. " if you cannot support something properly then you shouldn't do it.

So I say again.... the apologies and " I'm gonna do better" were just bullshit and empty comments.
Venus Vermillion
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2050 - 2012-03-15 03:31:40 UTC
Hello pubbies.

This is a public service announcement for all of you who don't seem to grasp the concept. Eve Online is not World of Warcraft. It is not made by Blizzard. Eve Online is not Everquest, either. Eve Online, made by CCP, does not have an "End Game". There are no master bosses, no giant dragons, no top levels. There are no raids. There are no guilds.

The sooner you come to understand these facts, the sooner you will stop referring to owning a Titan as "the end game". I know this bursts your bubbles, as newbies look toward Nullsec and think "Wow! One day I'm going to own a Titan and have all the best mods and cool gear!" but it is sadly my duty to inform you that this is simply not the case. You will have more fun playing this game in the way most comfortable to you - be that flying frigates and becoming really good at them, flying cruisers and becoming really good at them, or picking some other specialty like, I dare say, mining (note: don't be an idiot and mine). Building your character directly toward "I want to fly a titan!" is going to turn you into one of the spergy weirdos that thinks that Eve Online has an "end game" like the aforementioned horrible games.
Balderic Lunacy
The Fifth Ace
#2051 - 2012-03-15 03:35:36 UTC
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Hello pubbies.

This is a public service announcement for all of you who don't seem to grasp the concept. Eve Online is not World of Warcraft. It is not made by Blizzard. Eve Online is not Everquest, either. Eve Online, made by CCP, does not have an "End Game". There are no master bosses, no giant dragons, no top levels. There are no raids. There are no guilds.

The sooner you come to understand these facts, the sooner you will stop referring to owning a Titan as "the end game". I know this bursts your bubbles, as newbies look toward Nullsec and think "Wow! One day I'm going to own a Titan and have all the best mods and cool gear!" but it is sadly my duty to inform you that this is simply not the case. You will have more fun playing this game in the way most comfortable to you - be that flying frigates and becoming really good at them, flying cruisers and becoming really good at them, or picking some other specialty like, I dare say, mining (note: don't be an idiot and mine). Building your character directly toward "I want to fly a titan!" is going to turn you into one of the spergy weirdos that thinks that Eve Online has an "end game" like the aforementioned horrible games.



Your right. A Titan is not the end game for everyone. But you are a fool if you think that the majority of pilots do not view it as such.

The game is ever changing and evolving, but until you show me something beyond a Titan then that is the ceiling.
Kyle Myr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2052 - 2012-03-15 03:38:27 UTC
Andski wrote:
just checked and my posts make up 10% of this thread

what up


I can't keep up with you.
Sotar Armana
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2053 - 2012-03-15 03:38:53 UTC
Balderic Lunacy wrote:
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Hello pubbies.

This is a public service announcement for all of you who don't seem to grasp the concept. Eve Online is not World of Warcraft. It is not made by Blizzard. Eve Online is not Everquest, either. Eve Online, made by CCP, does not have an "End Game". There are no master bosses, no giant dragons, no top levels. There are no raids. There are no guilds.

The sooner you come to understand these facts, the sooner you will stop referring to owning a Titan as "the end game". I know this bursts your bubbles, as newbies look toward Nullsec and think "Wow! One day I'm going to own a Titan and have all the best mods and cool gear!" but it is sadly my duty to inform you that this is simply not the case. You will have more fun playing this game in the way most comfortable to you - be that flying frigates and becoming really good at them, flying cruisers and becoming really good at them, or picking some other specialty like, I dare say, mining (note: don't be an idiot and mine). Building your character directly toward "I want to fly a titan!" is going to turn you into one of the spergy weirdos that thinks that Eve Online has an "end game" like the aforementioned horrible games.



Your right. A Titan is not the end game for everyone. But you are a fool if you think that the majority of pilots do not view it as such.

The game is ever changing and evolving, but until you show me something beyond a Titan then that is the ceiling.


There is no end game content. The game is player-driven.
Kitfox Mikakka
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2054 - 2012-03-15 03:45:35 UTC
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
stuff


There is no endgame content in EVE. It's not WoW, it's not Guild Wars, you don't hit 80 and run raids over and over with your guild to get the super optimal layout of gear for your character. They're nerfing Titans to the point where they'll be useless, you say? Then log out and get on one of your other characters who doesn't need to sit in a giant strategic weapon in a POS and hop into some frigate roams, get out there and camp some gates in terribly fit industrials for fun, station camp in jerkbags (Like us!) using an Amarr gimmickfleet that has tons of rainbow laser setups so it looks hilarious and awesome. Show your awesome skills by leading some small fleet ops using battleships and cruisers and tackle-fit Kestrels! Come **** off us idiots up in Dek with some rad AHAC gangs and jumpbridge camps and meta-game spying so that you can drop on DBRB while he tells some stupid story and makes us warp to our deaths by sending us directly into some awesome trap you set up. Do some stuff other than fly around in the giant strategic dongweapon that is the Titan! Just because the Titan is the last ship class on the big ol' list doesn't mean it's some omni-own tool and you don't have anywhere else to go. There's probably at least 3 other racial trees you can give a go at, maybe some specialty ships like interceptors or AHACs and stuff.

There is so much more to this terrible game than just sitting there staring at your 10+km long ship and getting mad that you can't hotdrop it into a battle, spread out, and start Winning At EVE anymore. And if you don't want to do that because you don't enjoy anything other than Winning At EVE, then just sell the titan, sell the character, and go play a game that actually has endgame content, because that's obviously what you want instead of EVE. I've barely been playing for 4 months and even I'm aware of this.

e;fb by Venus. :mad:
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2055 - 2012-03-15 03:45:50 UTC
Sotar Armana wrote:
Balderic Lunacy wrote:
Venus Vermillion wrote:
Hello pubbies.

This is a public service announcement for all of you who don't seem to grasp the concept. Eve Online is not World of Warcraft. It is not made by Blizzard. Eve Online is not Everquest, either. Eve Online, made by CCP, does not have an "End Game". There are no master bosses, no giant dragons, no top levels. There are no raids. There are no guilds.

The sooner you come to understand these facts, the sooner you will stop referring to owning a Titan as "the end game". I know this bursts your bubbles, as newbies look toward Nullsec and think "Wow! One day I'm going to own a Titan and have all the best mods and cool gear!" but it is sadly my duty to inform you that this is simply not the case. You will have more fun playing this game in the way most comfortable to you - be that flying frigates and becoming really good at them, flying cruisers and becoming really good at them, or picking some other specialty like, I dare say, mining (note: don't be an idiot and mine). Building your character directly toward "I want to fly a titan!" is going to turn you into one of the spergy weirdos that thinks that Eve Online has an "end game" like the aforementioned horrible games.



Your right. A Titan is not the end game for everyone. But you are a fool if you think that the majority of pilots do not view it as such.

The game is ever changing and evolving, but until you show me something beyond a Titan then that is the ceiling.


There is no end game content. The game is player-driven.


no you dont understand when you finally get a spacecoffin you can start never logging in

truly, the end game in eve online
Sir Marksalot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2056 - 2012-03-15 03:47:40 UTC
Kitfox Mikakka wrote:
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
stuff

I've barely been playing for 4 months and even I'm aware of this.

e;fb by Venus. :mad:


you're also not a stupid pubbie so theres that
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2057 - 2012-03-15 03:51:34 UTC
Balderic Lunacy wrote:
Your right. A Titan is not the end game for everyone. But you are a fool if you think that the majority of pilots do not view it as such.

The game is ever changing and evolving, but until you show me something beyond a Titan then that is the ceiling.


How is that any different from being "another dude in a battleship?" You're just in a bigger ship.

Some people see FCing as their end-game. Others see alliance leadership as their end-game. Your end-game is nothing more than an extension of "press F1."

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Titan Keeper 22
Doomheim
#2058 - 2012-03-15 04:00:50 UTC
losing battles because of not using end-game ships that are available and which of the enemies have used, but instead you brought early to mid game content ships and whine like little girls.




here's a little story - say that there was a war going on between 'A country' and 'B country',

'A country' brought hundreads of elite soldiers in tanks and elite ground troops equipped with most modernised guns with a Commander on the field.
'B country' brought thousands of pesty peasants equipped with tridents and their working gear and having a Commander on the field.

now the results, obviously 'A country' would win.

even if B country's Commander is much, much better in every way than the A country's Commander, it wouldn't have mattered. the A country wins the battle.



but then, one of the two things happend

(assuming that 'B country's god named CCP exists)

1) 'B country' prayed to their god, made sacrifises, gave him offerings and wished that they would win the war.


2) 'B country' turned all their available resources into researching and manufacturing weapons to fight back 'A country'




later on, B country chose option '1)' and have won the war by god's power.



but they didn't want to keep the technology and the weapons they have acquired by salvaging looting 'A country', because they thought those things were too conflicated and weapons as brutal.


if they have kept them, it would have brought happiness and excitement, through out the entire country because of the complete change in their bordrum life. which they have never thought of, then they kept on living the same usual unchangeable life(just like those poor north korean people under the command of the Kim Jeong-Eun) that just dont ever change.



p.s. when i mentioned the end-game content which i obviously thought of it as a titan, it's just my opinion of saying. reason why? because i couldn't think of any other thing that's harder to get than a titan pilot and a titan. and the cost of the isk as well.

should you argue that some people got theirs easily? they got help from other people, alliance, corp, botting, and etc. if anyone had used those source on somthing other than aquiring a titan pilot plus a titan, then they'd get what they seeked for with much ease.

p.p.s Marlona Sky thanks for the tip, but there are just too many posts and one simply cannot block those trolls without so much effort. thats why i left the problem to CCP so that way thousands of ppl could save time and would actually be able to read the good feedbacks. and by the way, you should first stop trolling before you agreeingmg on the fact that troll posts should get removed.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2059 - 2012-03-15 04:02:27 UTC
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
'A country' brought hundreads of elite soldiers in tanks and elite ground troops equipped with most modernised guns with a Commander on the field.
'B country' brought thousands of pesty peasants equipped with tridents and their working gear and having a Commander on the field.

now the results, obviously 'A country' would win.


Ho Chi Minh just lol'd in his grave

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2060 - 2012-03-15 04:04:39 UTC
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:
losing battles because of not using end-game ships that are available and which of the enemies have used, but instead you brought early to mid game content ships and whine like little girls.




here's a little story - say that there was a war going on between 'A country' and 'B country',

'A country' brought hundreads of elite soldiers in tanks and elite ground troops equipped with most modernised guns with a Commander on the field.
'B country' brought thousands of pesty peasants equipped with tridents and their working gear and having a Commander on the field.

now the results, obviously 'A country' would win.

even if B country's Commander is much, much better in every way than the A country's Commander, it wouldn't have mattered. the A country wins the battle.



but then, one of the two things happend

(assuming that 'B country's god named CCP exists)

1) 'B country' prayed to their god, made sacrifises, gave him offerings and wished that they would win the war.


2) 'B country' turned all their available resources into researching and manufacturing weapons to fight back 'A country'




later on, B country chose option '1)' and have won the war by god's power.



but they didn't want to keep the technology and the weapons they have acquired by salvaging looting 'A country', because they thought those things were too conflicated and weapons as brutal.


if they have kept them, it would have brought happiness and excitement, through out the entire country because of the complete change in their bordrum life. which they have never thought of, then they kept on living the same usual unchangeable life(just like those poor north korean people under the command of the Kim Jeong-Eun) that just dont ever change.



p.s. when i mentioned the end-game content which i obviously thought of it as a titan, it's just my opinion of saying. reason why? because i couldn't think of any other thing that's harder to get than a titan pilot and a titan. and the cost of the isk as well.

should you argue that some people got theirs easily? they got help from other people, alliance, corp, botting, and etc. if anyone had used those source on somthing other than aquiring a titan pilot plus a titan, then they'd get what they seeked for with much ease.

p.p.s Marlona Sky thanks for the tip, but there are just too many posts and one simply cannot block those trolls without so much effort. thats why i left the problem to CCP so that way thousands of ppl could save time and would actually be able to read the good feedbacks. and by the way, you should first stop trolling before you agreeingmg on the fact that troll posts should get removed.


Try to compare RL to eve again for me. Which country has the phallus shaped vehicles?

Obligitory :smug: :smug: :smug: DEATH2ALLSUPERCAPS

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