Ships & Modules

yes except just about every titan has a carrier within earshot for a nice fast refit to a EHP fit if **** hits the fan, and most tracking titans could take out even with a tracking fit a nice 50 man battlecruiser gang solo even if they were nano fit

This change makes sense, in the real world you don't see us shooting 50 cal sniper rifles to kill f*cking ants and hitting 99% of the time.

I fixed that for you.

this is not even a effective nerf stop freaking out guys and throw two auto targeting system II in the high and lock up 9 people and blap away.

digging your own grave

Is CCP willing to reimburse titan owners for years of SP and ISK lost, or will just let them quit game in frustration? I know it is not that many accounts but I don't think CCP at this moment can afford to lose any.

Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage.
Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo

you have nothing to worry about, not like you can camp the jita 4-4 undock with a titan

Believing that titans are endgame is pretty sad :(

You mean that thing where a fleet is capped at 256 members? Yeah I think they should implement that too.

I've snipped this post down to points which aren't just direct attacks on other people's character. Plenty of us enjoy flinging that sort of thing around, but I wouldn't want to annoy the moderators, so I'll address your relevant points.


Have you missed the killmails of CCP Abaddons with nothing but Titans on them? Or lists elsewhere of dictors and frigates killed by single titan shots? These are hard facts. There are multiple battle reports which show this kind of engagement.



I wasn't around for the great war: I subscribed a little under a year ago, but I've read up on history, and the conflict between players with established capital fleets in 0.0 (once lead by the vanguard of Band of Brothers, which is an alliance your own corporation was part of) versus the presence of new entities in frigates (in 2006, Goonfleet. In 2010, the re-remake of Band of Brothers, IT Alliance, versus TEST) has dated back at least 5 years. From the era of remote AOE doomsdays to the modern era of rapidly tracking high-EHP titans able to kill all tackle, there has always been an element of the old rich exploiting whatever they can about Titans to drive newer players from 0.0.



I'll address these together, as I feel they're attacking the same point: that numbers and not doctrine are the only thing that matter in sub capital engagements. There are a few points against this:
-First, that turning players away from a fleet is bad policy, as it suggests that EVE is a game where conflict should arbitrarily cap participation, when its huge space brawls with hundreds on both sides of the fight are one of its major draws
-Second, that the CFC's doctrine is impossible to defeat, or to imitate (it is neither, but I'm not going to suggest how to defeat my own side)
-Finally, that the idea that a small group of wealthy individuals should be to create a bigger effect than large, carefully coordinated groups of hundreds. Single volleys killing a ship is easily achieved by 20 titans, which are invulnerable due to reps from 20+ super carriers. Even when 200+ maelstroms can instantly kill a target much less frequently, their numbers can be whittled down, even with the present of support ships. 40+ bombers cannot create an effect remotely on the level of an old AOE doomsday, and they do it at much, much greater risk than that old AOE doomsday (to say nothing about the complete lack of risk present in the Remote AOE doomsday).