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Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1241 - 2012-03-14 03:42:31 UTC
Andski wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Want to know the truth?


Enlighten me.


I'll only tell you, in game personally, if you can show me you're a trust worthy person. The only way I can think of is by sending me 900 million isk. I'll give it back. I promise!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1242 - 2012-03-14 03:44:39 UTC
Surge Roth wrote:
Andski wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Want to know the truth?


Enlighten me.


I'll only tell you, in game personally, if you can show me you're a trust worthy person. The only way I can think of is by sending me 900 million isk. I'll give it back. I promise!


Send me 450m and I'll double it. No troll.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1243 - 2012-03-14 03:45:46 UTC
Andski wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Andski wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Want to know the truth?


Enlighten me.


I'll only tell you, in game personally, if you can show me you're a trust worthy person. The only way I can think of is by sending me 900 million isk. I'll give it back. I promise!


Send me 450m and I'll double it. No troll.


Only if you send me 900 mil first to prove you're not lying
Thea Siirian
Doomheim
#1244 - 2012-03-14 03:45:54 UTC
Sry but 2 titans, 1 rifter was a bit much for me... but I am crazy. Every nerf towards 'endgame gear' doesn't really hurt the super-big. It does hurt the 'trying to be big'. But in this case... I would like to have seen an intelligent way to deal with the issue, and yes IMO there is an issue.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1245 - 2012-03-14 03:46:54 UTC
I'll pay you 1.8b through The Mittani then

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1246 - 2012-03-14 03:48:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
I'll pay you 1.8b through The Mittani then


I'll be waiting
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1247 - 2012-03-14 03:52:28 UTC
This just in: I owned The Mittani in elite jabber pvp.
Roffle Lawler
Elitist Oops
#1248 - 2012-03-14 04:06:51 UTC
Andski wrote:
PL 2012: whines about hardly being able to muster 200 dudes, brags about having 400 supers

BearBear

i think this sums up this thread well.
Truce Billis
Sword of Glory
#1249 - 2012-03-14 04:07:15 UTC
Surge Roth wrote:
Andski wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Posting with mains doesn't give anyone more credibility. Especially in a video game. I prefer to keep my "main" out of these activities because I know the kind of sociopaths that play this game. Never mind the fact my peers may think I might be giving them a bad rep. Keep assuming things though. It brings a smile to my face when you guys are wrong.


"I make bad posts, I don't want my scrubcorp to realize that I'm an awful poster"


I'm not a bad poster. Talking about controversial topics always makes people uncomfortable. Fortunately for you, you don't have to worry about such things because goonswarm is filled with scrublord hooligans who don't care about anything.

lol
Courthouse
Perkone
Caldari State
#1250 - 2012-03-14 04:12:25 UTC
Surge Roth wrote:
[I'm not a bad poster.


Remember the first episode of Sherlock where the cops are holding the news conference and they state a fact and all the press guys in the room get a text at the same time that says "wrong".

Imagine that's happening right now because that's what the rest of us are seeing.
Anela Cistine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1251 - 2012-03-14 04:13:29 UTC
Tithi wrote:


Honestly I think it is great what you guys do for the game. I am totally in agreement with 99% of the Goons in this thread, I just think that we should be careful that we don't change Eve from "50 Supercaps Online" to "1200 Maelstroms Online." CCP's goal seems to be for alliances to have to field balanced heterogeneous fleets with no single class of ship being the IWIN button. I love this and I hope they someday get it right.

My original question was, "What capital ship is good for killing subcaps?" Two people answered, one said "bring subcaps" and the other just called me an idiot for being in RvB. Neither of these really answers my question. I may be alone here, but I think there should be a capitol ship designed for fighting downward so that we don't have to counter X maelstroms with X+1 maelstroms and we're back where we started.

You guys see what I mean, though, right? I think both sides when they aren't slinging internet insults at each other have some decent points and we should actually have a discussion instead of just calling everyone "pubbies" and ****.


Yeah, I can see that.

Something to remember is that in 0.0 shooting structures is both vital and horrible. So horrible. Caps are the best thing ever for shooting (or repping) structures. Shooting structures, even just towers, with drakes is terrible. Maelstroms are not much better. The only subcaps not completely terrible for structure shoots are lasers with t1 crystals, so you can just press f1 and then tab out until the FC shouts out new orders, but allowing you to ignore the game you are supposedly playing isn't really a point in their favour.

A handful of supercarriers can defang a death star in a few minutes. A fairly small group of dreads can kill most structures in a single seige cycle. Likewise, trying to repair your own tower is infinitely faster with carriers than with a similar number of logistics ships. Without capitals the Dominion sov system would be completely unplayable rather than merely awful.


Aside from structures, dreads ought to be able to hurt BS and huge-sig drakes. They shouldn't hurt smaller subcaps, but it would be completely reasonable for them to be a BS counter. I'm not sure if they can do this right now, I don't fly them and I haven't seen them on the field shooting anything but undefended structures in a long time. Carriers can certainly contribute to subcap battle by assigning fighters, I love it when carriers assign fighters. They aren't solo pwnmobiles, but carriers have a nice combination of skills that makes them really useful in all sorts of situations.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1252 - 2012-03-14 04:14:21 UTC
this thread has been my plaything for 64 pages

alas, friends, i cannot continue as I must catch some sleep

(dance, puppets)

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Roffle Lawler
Elitist Oops
#1253 - 2012-03-14 04:25:30 UTC
Roffle Lawler wrote:
Andski wrote:
PL 2012: whines about hardly being able to muster 200 dudes, brags about having 400 supers

BearBear

i think this sums up this thread well.


And i ****** up the snipe too, shameful. It has taken me literally all day to get ahead of this thread and, quite frankly, I want my time back.
Spurty
#1254 - 2012-03-14 04:47:39 UTC
Titans no longer FOTM shocker.

New FOTM, bring x 3 to x 5 the number of ships to every fight.

Can we please get hit points on ALL ships 1/2'ed or even dropped to 1/3 now (don't change anything else!)

Feel free to balance this by increasing structure hitpoints.

Happy days :-0

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1255 - 2012-03-14 04:50:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Spurty wrote:
Titans no longer FOTM shocker.

New FOTM, bring x 3 to x 5 the number of ships to every fight.

Can we please get hit points on ALL ships 1/2'ed or even dropped to 1/3 now (don't change anything else!)

Feel free to balance this by increasing structure hitpoints.

Happy days :-0


nah the new FOTM is "join ncdot and moan about your titan being nerfed"

i mean you wouldn't have to worry about that, you're definitely not an FOTM chaser, right?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Powers Sa
#1256 - 2012-03-14 04:50:55 UTC
Ruthless Erection wrote:
Andski wrote:
Loving this.


You would because you're a ****** Goon. Your sole purpose in EVE is to destroy it


CCP, this is a terrible idea. There are so many other ways you could balance titans


But if you insist upon this ******** "balancing", bring AoE Doomsday back then

We have TiDi, AoE doomsday won't be nearly as bad as it used to be


But I'm beginning to think that CCP no longer runs this game, and that Goons dictate what they want to happen, and it does. -A- cried about Doomsdaying of sub-capitals, BAM. No more doomsdaying sub-caps. Goons are crying about titans, and their "OPness", BAM. Titans get "nerfed"

First observation, Goons have more titans/supers than all of Raiden, PL, NCdot, and other alliances, put together. They CHOOSE to not use them, so why must you punish those who do use them

You've removed drone bays, you've removed sub-cap doomsday'ing, and now you're removing their ONLY line of defense. Think hard before you reply CCP, we're beginning to think you're incompetent in developing & balancing this game further.

sup riverini

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BrokenBC
no tax's are us
#1257 - 2012-03-14 04:51:17 UTC
holy F*ck.Im sick of hearing about this mythical number 1200.BR or it didn't happen. Especially 1200 maelstroms. The cfc may pull 1200 for a mad all out HD fleet,or possibly the opening night of an invasion that also happened to coincide with a holiday.Other than That I call bullsh*t.So again battle reports or it isn't happening!
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1258 - 2012-03-14 04:53:45 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
Ruthless Erection wrote:
Andski wrote:
Loving this.


You would because you're a ****** Goon. Your sole purpose in EVE is to destroy it


CCP, this is a terrible idea. There are so many other ways you could balance titans


But if you insist upon this ******** "balancing", bring AoE Doomsday back then

We have TiDi, AoE doomsday won't be nearly as bad as it used to be


But I'm beginning to think that CCP no longer runs this game, and that Goons dictate what they want to happen, and it does. -A- cried about Doomsdaying of sub-capitals, BAM. No more doomsdaying sub-caps. Goons are crying about titans, and their "OPness", BAM. Titans get "nerfed"

First observation, Goons have more titans/supers than all of Raiden, PL, NCdot, and other alliances, put together. They CHOOSE to not use them, so why must you punish those who do use them

You've removed drone bays, you've removed sub-cap doomsday'ing, and now you're removing their ONLY line of defense. Think hard before you reply CCP, we're beginning to think you're incompetent in developing & balancing this game further.

sup riverini


That post was way, way too well written to be from Riverini.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1259 - 2012-03-14 04:55:35 UTC
BrokenBC wrote:
holy F*ck.Im sick of hearing about this mythical number 1200.BR or it didn't happen. Especially 1200 maelstroms. The cfc may pull 1200 for a mad all out HD fleet,or possibly the opening night of an invasion that also happened to coincide with a holiday.Other than That I call bullsh*t.So again battle reports or it isn't happening!


I've been in Goonwaffe for two years. I can count on one hand the times we've (the CFC) had 1200 people in subcaps. People talking like we do that on a regular basis are dumb.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
#1260 - 2012-03-14 04:55:38 UTC
Oh man all these posts ... it's like blowjobs but for my retinas